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Rare patterns
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:37 pm
by djknife13
Here's a few of what I consider "rare" patterns. 1st is a Saynor Hobbyist's ivory scaled knife with a built in loupe. 2nd knife is a Henry Sears Champaigne knife. 3rd is a Camillus smokers knife with a pipe tool and sheepsfoot blade. 4th is a Pribyl Bros. Celebrated box opener scaled in ebony. 5th is an antique AG stamped trick knife, probably German, possibly English that opens by catching the tip bolster with your thumb and sliding it out about 1/2 inch and spinning the now released scale 180 degrees to expose the blade, and sliding the bolster back in place to lock the blade open. Lets see some of yours that we may not have seen at least very many examples of. ___Dave.
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:55 am
by dcgm4
Very cool knives, Dave!

I really like the Saynor and that trick knife. Those are just awesome!
Here are some of my rare patterns. The first is a sleeveboard congress by A. F. Bannister & Co. The second is an F. A. Koch with fancy bolsters. The third is a slim sleeveboard jack by Boker. I've seen pen and whittler knives with this frame but this is the only jack I've come across so far. Last is a knife also by Boker which has a blade pick at the end.
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:00 am
by FRJ
You guys have some nice knives there. Very nice.
I had to stick my finger in a light socket just to get my heart goin agin after seein that slim sleeveboard. YOWZA!
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:13 pm
by djknife13
Very nice patterns. Somewhere I think I have a thin sleeveboard but I don't ever remember seeing a sleeveboard congress. Now I have some digging to see what name is on that thin one, or if it is actually even what I remember it being. Thanks for posting. All 4 are interesting and nice knives. ___Dave
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:02 pm
by wlf
Some odd ones. Celebrated box opener.Huh.
I like that sleeveboard too.
You don't see these often. A couple cuts showing these,may or may not be whittlers.The Holley is described next line below cut description.
4 1/8" Clements very tight, split spring farmers whittler( I made up that name)

Clements was a high end London retailer,most likely Thomas Turner or William and Ernest Mills contract. c 1920s
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:36 pm
by peanut740
Lyle you good add "barebottom" to your discription of farmers whittler.

Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:52 pm
by wlf
Roger,I didn't want to em barrass her.
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:10 pm
by Miller Bro's
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:39 pm
by Sonoraman66
I saw a toothpick I think was very wide and has 4 blades on one end can anyone tell me what it is and the value
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:40 pm
by Miller Bro's
Probably going to need a picture

Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:50 pm
by peanut740
wlf wrote:Roger,I didn't want to em barrass her.
Lyle she a pretty lady.

Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:13 pm
by carrmillus
wlf wrote:Some odd ones. Celebrated box opener.Huh.
I like that sleeveboard too.
You don't see these often. A couple cuts showing these,may or may not be whittlers.The Holley is described next line below cut description.
4 1/8" Clements very tight, split spring farmers whittler( I made up that name)

Clements was a high end London retailer,most likely Thomas Turner or William and Ernest Mills contract. c 1920s
.........man, do I like this one!!!......that is neat!!!..........

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Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:34 pm
by djknife13
I found my 4 inch sleeveboard but I'm not sure it was the one I was looking for. I think I have a German stag one somewhere. This one is a two blade (double end) jack or pen. I'm actually not sure which one this is. It is a Dobson & Sons, Sheffield. They were made from 1864 to 1916.___Dave
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:44 pm
by djknife13
I think I took a lousy picture because it doesn't look "sleeveboard" on this shot. It actually looks a little more tapered in person. ___Dave
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:41 pm
by wlf
What's the length Dave?
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:46 pm
by djknife13
It's 4 inches closed, has a fairly thick spring and surprisingly strong nice snap for a thin knife on both blades. The wide side is 1/2 inch and the narrow side is 3/8 th inch.___Dave
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:56 pm
by Mumbleypeg
I think it's the one he referred to in his post as being 4 inches. Picture looks vaguely similar to Case 6296X "Citrus Knife", which is 4-1/4 inches. Here's one I have, and while not as unusual as Dave's OP knives, it isn't a very common pattern.
Ken
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:15 pm
by FRJ
Dave and Ken, beautiful knives. Love that pattern ...... don't have one.
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:22 pm
by djknife13
I think most citrus blades have a little straighter blade and are a little longer. They just have a different look to them. Maybe the ones I have handled were all lower end ones. I do have two blade (long melon blade and two tang fork) a Robt. Klaas with awesome stag. It is 5 1/2 inches long and is obviously a melon tester or sausage knife. ___Dave
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:49 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Thanks Joe. Not sure these qualify as rare, but I'll contribute these to the cause as they're not very common either. I've posted them all before on other threads so my apologies if you're tired of seeing them.
Ken
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:43 am
by djknife13
Ken, what's the story behind Rather & Co. That's a nice old knife and I've never heard of the company and I yeah, I don't see many gunstock whittlers so I'd call them rare.They certainly are rare in my safe. My research material don't list Rather. Have you run this name through the rare knife company or rare tang stamps thread (or whatever it's called)?___Dave
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:49 am
by Mumbleypeg
djknife13 wrote:Ken, what's the story behind Rather & Co. That's a nice old knife and I've never heard of the company and I yeah, I don't see many gunstock whittlers so I'd call them rare.They certainly are rare in my safe. My research material don't list Rather. Have you run this name through the rare knife company or rare tang stamps thread (or whatever it's called)?___Dave
Dave, I wish I knew more about Rather & Co.

I've not been able to find much. I have another of their knives, a small equal end two blade with what appears to be smooth bone or horn handles. There is a listing for the company in Goins but no information about them. My research on the internet turned up a picture on Worthpoint of a very nice English jack pattern with jigged bone handles. All their knives I've seen are stamped on the master blade with crossed swords and the words "Acier Superfine" above "Rather & Co". Rather & Co. is stamped on the tang of all blades. " Acier" is a French word meaning steel. A search here on AAPK will find only my knife with this marking.
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... er#p443324
If you find anything please share!
Ken
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:44 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
You asked that question re' the four blade "toothpick" elsewhere. No need to load the site up with repetitive questions.
No one knows what you're talking about, because none of us, not I at any rate, have ever seen a four blade toothpick. More likely a trapper of some sort.
Post a picture, as requested the first time you asked.
No offense intended, just sayin'

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Charlie Noyes
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:34 pm
by melton714
djknife13 wrote:Here's a few of what I consider "rare" patterns. 1st is a Saynor Hobbyist's ivory scaled knife with a built in loupe. 2nd knife is a Henry Sears Champaigne knife. 3rd is a Camillus smokers knife with a pipe tool and sheepsfoot blade. 4th is a Pribyl Bros. Celebrated box opener scaled in ebony. 5th is an antique AG stamped trick knife, probably German, possibly English that opens by catching the tip bolster with your thumb and sliding it out about 1/2 inch and spinning the now released scale 180 degrees to expose the blade, and sliding the bolster back in place to lock the blade open. Lets see some of yours that we may not have seen at least very many examples of. ___Dave.
That is a very unique set of knives, I don't think I'v ever seen any of them, until now. Thanks for sharing
Re: Rare patterns
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:27 pm
by dcgm4
Nice knives, Mumbleypeg!
