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Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:52 am
by ken98k
What's the difference between a elephant toe and a sunfish?
The look the same to me.
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:01 am
by djknife13
Different names for the same knife. Sunfish sounds prettier. _____Dave
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:33 pm
by muskrat man
synonymous
I think they were more commonly refereed to as sunfish until case started making them with elephants on the blade?
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:33 pm
by carrmillus
......I may be wrong again, but the sunfish is equal end, the elephant toe is not, one bolster is smaller than the other....................

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Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:01 pm
by jerryd6818
Ding, ding, ding. Give that man a shot of Jack Daniel's.
Wikipedia says: "The elephant's toenail is a large design similar to the sunfish but usually tapers on one end giving it the "elephant's toenail" shape. These knives, like the sunfish, usually have two wide blades."
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:12 pm
by carrmillus
.......that's not a bad idea, jerry!!!............

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Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:11 pm
by jerryd6818
Thought you might like that.

Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:31 pm
by djknife13
Aw jeez, you smart guys are gonna make me go back and fix my records because I'm sure I have some of each. This knife collecting is alot of work. ___Dave
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:11 am
by peanut740
They are the same.
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:33 am
by djknife13
OK I lied, I wasn't really going to change my records, but Case did call them Elephant toenails but I only have one Case and it is an equal end Tested XX, so would that be a Case Sunfish? And the rest (5 in all) are equal end except for a Larry Hayes custom, and that is a swell center whittler pattern with the large blade end slightly larger. Levine calls them all Sunfish but said they are also called "Elephant toenails", "Old English Rope knives" and "Vest Pocket Axes" the last two of which I've never heard before until you made me look this up______Dave
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 4:36 pm
by carrmillus
.....dj, not sure what you would call the swell center??....one reason I remember the difference in the sunfish and elephant toe was that one night on the old smkw knife show, steve koontz showed one of each and explained the difference in the 2 patterns!!...........

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Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:03 pm
by msteele6
Easy to tell the difference between a Sunfish and an Elephant Toenail:
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:43 pm
by djknife13
Here is a swell center, whittler pattern Sunfish (or Elephant toe depending on who you are talking to) made by Larry Hayes. ____Dave
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:45 pm
by carrmillus
msteele6 wrote:Easy to tell the difference between a Sunfish and an Elephant Toenail:
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Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:12 pm
by wazu013
Toes

Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:34 pm
by carrmillus
...sunfish!!!!.........

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Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:08 am
by djknife13
I'm going with "Sunfish" on this 1995 Bulldog
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:08 am
by philco
msteele6 wrote:Easy to tell the difference between a Sunfish and an Elephant Toenail:
Mark thanks for the best laugh I've had today.

Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:15 pm
by jerryd6818
It's beginning to sound more and more like the whittler controversy.

Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:04 pm
by djknife13
ken98k wrote:What's the difference between a elephant toe and a sunfish?
The look the same to me.
So Ken, are you still with us, or have we got you frustrated. I doubt everyone will agree completely but hopefully you've mined enough opinions to figure out what you want to call them. Sorry we weren't more concrete with an answer. I know more than I did before you asked the question. ___Dave
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:51 am
by ken98k
djknife13 wrote:ken98k wrote:What's the difference between a elephant toe and a sunfish?
The look the same to me.
So Ken, are you still with us, or have we got you frustrated. I doubt everyone will agree completely but hopefully you've mined enough opinions to figure out what you want to call them. Sorry we weren't more concrete with an answer. I know more than I did before you asked the question. ___Dave
Yup, I got it now. They're the same except when they're different!

Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 1:12 pm
by jerryd6818
Good one Ken.

Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:53 am
by Colagirl
So according to rough rider standards?!? Is this a sunfish or elephant toenail? Is one more valuable than the other?? Also does anyone know if the Coca Cola and bottle were original to the knife or custom?????
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:25 pm
by peanut740
There's no difference between a toenail and sunfish.
I will say the Coco Cola was added.Not much value,it's a Rough Ryder.
Re: Elephant toe or sunfish?
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:54 pm
by Reverand
In my mind, the Elephant Toenail pattern is an equal-end knife, while the Sunfish is smaller on one end (shaped like an actual fish).
Now I will admit that this definition is mine, is not definitive in any book that I have read, and is worth every cent that you just paid for it.