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Schatt Morgan Stag Whittler

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:36 pm
by bkazz5
I have attached pictures of a stag balloon whittler which I recently purchased. I am curious that the tang is stamped 2000 while the blade etch appears to be a date of 033176 1 of 50. Does 033176 represent the date of 03/31/1976 or is that a serial number? If it does represent a date then why the 2000 tang stamp? Can anyone shed any light on this knife? Thanks

Re: Schatt Morgan Sag Whittler

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:33 pm
by Dinadan
I do not know the answer to your question, but that is a very nice knife! Good find.

Re: Schatt Morgan Sag Whittler

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 11:37 pm
by jerryd6818
033 176 is a Schatt & Morgan model number. 2000 is the year of manufacture. Beauty knife.

Edit: Did a little searching but couldn't find another one like this nor could I find any reference to this model number. Also, I do not pretend to understand nor am I able to decode S&M model numbers.

Re: Schatt Morgan Sag Whittler

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 11:54 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Looks more like salesman sample code, but were they even still doing such things in 2000?

Charlie Noyes

Re: Schatt Morgan Sag Whittler

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 12:04 am
by jerryd6818
S&M uses six numbers like that to identify different pattern/models of their knives.

This is the same knife except for the handle material.

Re: Schatt Morgan Sag Whittler

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 1:07 am
by bkazz5
Thanks guys for the feedback. I have not seen another like it escpecailly with that "freestyle" etch. Is that common among Schatt Morgans?

Re: Schatt Morgan Sag Whittler

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 1:12 am
by gino
Great looking knife! ::drool::

Re: Schatt Morgan Sag Whittler

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 2:56 am
by jerryd6818
bkazz5 wrote:Thanks guys for the feedback. I have not seen another like it escpecailly with that "freestyle" etch. Is that common among Schatt Morgans?
Not that I've seen but then I'm not an expert. I asked on IKnife Collector about decoding S&M numbers. PM your email address and I'll forward her answer.

You may notice in the picture, my knife was also made in 2000.

Re: Schatt Morgan Stag Whittler

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:50 pm
by msteele6
Here's a knife my wife bought me for Christmas in '95 or '96 I think. It looks to be produced to the same standards as the OP knife. The stag is the gnarliest I own, the knife is dated 1992:

Re: Schatt Morgan Stag Whittler

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:03 am
by Billswfl
The breakdown of the six digit number is: 03= stag, 3= number of blades, 1 is clip main blade and 76 is the pattern number. I have also seen that style of etching on other Schatts. I'll see if I can find one.

Bill

Re: Schatt Morgan Stag Whittler

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:56 am
by jerryd6818
Bill do you have a matrix chart with all the digit positions decoded?

I.E. 03 = stag
..........04 = bone
etc
etc

If 1 is a clip blade, what is 2, 3, 4, etc, etc?

Re: Schatt Morgan Stag Whittler

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 3:03 pm
by Billswfl
Jerry I may be wrong, but this is what I have.
Handle materials(I'll fill in the blanks as I find them)
03= stag
04=bone
05=pearl
06=Winterbottom bone
12 Wooly Mammoth
14=buffalo horn
15 black lip pearl

Blades
This is what I have now.
0=Wharncliffe
1=clip
2=spear
3=razor
4=sheepsfoot

Bill

Re: Schatt Morgan Stag Whittler

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:08 pm
by bkazz5
Good to know. You guys are always a wealth of information.

Re: Schatt Morgan Stag Whittler

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:47 pm
by jerryd6818
Thanks Bill. That's similar to what I had done once I discovered which digit position was designated for what. Maybe we can use this thread to complete a chart of what's what.