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Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:13 am
by Miller Bro's
At one time two giant mail order catalog suppliers, everything from nails to an entire pre-fab house, and of course knives!

The knives were made on contract from various well known knife companies like Utica, Camillus, Winchester, etc. The early knives were well made and made with premium handle material.

If you have them please post them here for others to see ::tu::

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:38 am
by jerryd6818
You showed a Wards. Here is a couple with their house brand as the tang stamp, Powr-Kraft. (I have more)

Let's start with a Powr-Kraft that is really a Camillus 80 Deluxe Carpenter's & Whittler's Knife.
Wards Powr-Kraft (Camillus 80) '54-'66 - OpenM.JPG
Wards Powr-Kraft (Camillus 80) '54-'66 - Liner Jimping Closer.JPG
One of the better examples of the Powr-Kraft 84-11s which of course was a Camillus 72. These don't come up on eBay real often.
Powr-Kraft 84-11 -- Open.JPG

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:37 am
by Mumbleypeg
Here's a Sears Craftsman scout/camp pattern. I've seen a couple of other Craftsmans like it, but I've never seen another brand of knife with this bail. Over on the scout knives thread someone posted the patent for it a while back.

Ken

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:09 am
by FRJ
Hi Ken. That's a real nice knife. I think I like that bail. Goes right over your belt.

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:20 am
by philco
Oh boy this is gonna be one of those goooood threads............... :mrgreen:

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:27 am
by Ramrod
Here are 2 wards knives that I have.
The 3 blade in stag, possibly made by Winchester. I received it in a trade with Johnnie Rotten.
Wards2.JPG
The 4 blade is nice too and pretty sure its made by ..Camillus? What do you all think? Utica or Camillus?
Wards frm stockman aapk.jpg
I have a couple more to post later! ::tu::
Mark

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:17 am
by timgreene48
This is my every day carry...

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:50 am
by sextonknifeworks
I picked this one up not too long ago.

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:27 am
by wlf
Nice knives fellas. Looks like that Wards of Dimitri's and Mike's have some of the same DNA.

Here's my Wards.Who made 'em guys?

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:08 pm
by jerryd6818
There are some fine, fine examples being shown here. Thanks guys.
wlf wrote:Here's my Wards.Who made 'em guys?
The Kastor list says Camillus made the Powr-Kraft line from 1939 until close of business but just to be accurate, it does add the caveat "suspect". I suspect you could change that to "confirmed" if you look at the 84-11. There's no doubt in my mind that pattern was made by Camillus.

As far as the "Wards" line? ::shrug:: Anyone recognize those, as to the manufacturer?


The Kastor list has Camillus making the "Craftsman" line from 1941-2006 and says it's Confirmed. BUT the 9494s I have all look just like the Ulster 63.
Sears Craftsman 9494 - (Ulster #63) Whittler.JPG
DSC06342.JPG
And then there's this bone handle 9494 that may be Schrade/Ulster. I was very happy to get it.
Sears Craftsman (9494) Bone Handles - Open Mark.JPG

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:14 pm
by Miller Bro's
jerryd6818 wrote:As far as the "Wards" line? ::shrug:: Anyone recognize those, as to the manufacturer?
The example I posted was made by Utica ::nod::

I like the ones you posted marked Powr-Kraft Jerry, I don`t think I have one of those.

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:29 pm
by jerryd6818
Miller Bro`s wrote:
jerryd6818 wrote:As far as the "Wards" line? ::shrug:: Anyone recognize those, as to the manufacturer?
The example I posted was made by Utica ::nod::

I like the ones you posted marked Powr-Kraft Jerry, I don`t think I have one of those.
Maybe that's because they're too new. :lol:

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:38 pm
by jerryd6818
You do have a reputation. My jaw just about hit the floor when you posted you had been carrying that Rough Rider for a year. And then when I saw the Great Eastern you bought and plan to carry this year, I almost fell out of my chair. :lol: Where's our Dimitri and what have you done with him?

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:48 pm
by Miller Bro's
jerryd6818 wrote: Where's our Dimitri and what have you done with him?
He`s locked in the basement right now ::paranoid::

Never can tell what I am going to do but, I thought I would walk into the 21st century for a while and try out some "New" knives :wink:

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:25 pm
by jerryd6818
Good Lord, don't forget to feed him.

It's not so bad here in the 21st. We have some really nice stuff and just because it shines, that doesn't make it bad. :mrgreen:

I would show you a few examples but this is a Sears and Monkey Wards thread. :lol:

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:26 pm
by tjmurphy
When did anything like "subject" ever stop you?? :lol:

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:35 pm
by jerryd6818
Now you cut that out. Dimitri, you're an Admin. Get out your magic eraser and clean up this thread. ::huff::

And I apologize for T.J.s thread derailing bad manners. :mrgreen:

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:20 pm
by FRJ
Here's three of mine.

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:38 pm
by Colonel26
Now you're talking my language! I picked up my first two Wards knives at a gun show. I really like them. Here are the two Wards I have and an old 4 blade Made in USA stockman that I'm pretty sure is a camillus made for sears.

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:18 pm
by wlf
jerryd6818 wrote:You do have a reputation. My jaw just about hit the floor when you posted you had been carrying that Rough Rider for a year. And then when I saw the Great Eastern you bought and plan to carry this year, I almost fell out of my chair. :lol: Where's our Dimitri and what have you done with him?
Jerry,it's because he has most everything in history(he just posts old stuff) and he is now working up to 2015 models. :D


Peanut's got a nice one I hope he posts.

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:16 pm
by Miller Bro's
wlf wrote:Jerry,it's because he has most everything in history(he just posts old stuff) and he is now working up to 2015 models. :D
Lyle, SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don`t let the cat out of the bag your gonna ruin my reputation! ::paranoid:: ::paranoid::

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:06 pm
by jerryd6818
Miller Bro`s wrote:
wlf wrote:Jerry,it's because he has most everything in history(he just posts old stuff) and he is now working up to 2015 models. :D
Lyle, SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don`t let the cat out of the bag your gonna ruin my reputation! ::paranoid:: ::paranoid::
Dimitri, I think today, you're doing a mighty fine job of that all by yourself. Can you really say a thread has been derailed when the OP is the one that ran it in the ditch? ::uc::


Back on topic. ::huff::

Joe. That's a mighty fine Camillus #80 clone you have there. (top pictures) So far, I haven't seen one of those with a pattern number stamped on the pile side of the main. Is yours blank too?

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:46 pm
by WelderBob
Here's another like Mark's and Dimitri, same frame and blades but with stag handles and all blades marked stainless.

Now I've had several folks say Winchester made this but I believe it's Utica and maybe even a Kutmaster, it's the same as the bone handle knives they made in the 50's and 60's. I've never seen a Utica or Kut with stag so I'm still in a state of confusion... :lol:

Bob

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:30 pm
by Miller Bro's
Bob that`s a beauty! ::drool:: ::drool::

First one I have seen in stag too ::hmm::

Re: Montgomery Wards & Sears, Roebuck & Co. Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:52 pm
by Miller Bro's
Mumbleypeg wrote:Here's a Sears Craftsman scout/camp pattern. I've seen a couple of other Craftsmans like it, but I've never seen another brand of knife with this bail. Over on the scout knives thread someone posted the patent for it a while back.

Ken

Nice one Ken, I have a couple of these and both of them the shields fell out ::tear::

Apparently when the bail is folded shut it just touches the edge of the shield and after a while it knocks the shield off!
You usually only see the shield missing on the used ones the unused ones or the bone handle ones still have their shield, especially the bone handle ones which are pinned on the plastic handle ones are melted in no pins.