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Four China Whittlers

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:37 pm
by Dinadan
Earlier this year I developed an interest in whittler pocket knives. Along with nice Case and a Boker, I bought several cheap Chinese whittlers to play around with. I just thought I would post some observations here. I chose Robert Klaas, Marbles, Colt, and Rough Rider. All four of the knives are split back spring whittlers and all four were made in China. I know most folks here are not real fond of Chinese knives, and I will say that none of these four are the quality of my Boker or Case. For one thing, if I hold the Case or Boker up in front of a bright window, I cannot see a trace of light between springs and liners. On all four of these I can see lines of light.
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The 3 1/2" Klaas was the most expensive, about $25, and certainly seems well made. The blades have a good walk and talk. No half stops. The blades are straight and the two secondary blades are parallel when open. My general impression is that this is a good knife that I enjoy using. The only indication that this is a China knife is a small sticker on the box. The other three knives are marked on the blades.

The 3 1/2" Rough Rider was the cheapest, about $10. For that price it seems to be a good knife. The walk and talk is not bad. No half stops. The blades are straight and the secondary blades are parallel when open. Note that the main blade is very thick for the whole length instead of just at the tang. Unlike the other three knives, Rough Rider has inserted a brass spacer inside the liner so that the blade well is wide enough for the blades. I have carried and used this knife more than the others because I like it more. So far it has held up to light work.
Klaas, Rough Rider, Marbles, Colt
Klaas, Rough Rider, Marbles, Colt
The 3 1/2" Marbles was about $20 and it is a bit more substantial than the Klaas or the Rough Rider. It looks good. the walk and talk are good; the secondary blades have half stops, the main does not. The main blade is straight. The two secondary blades are not straight and spraddle like a new born calf's legs. I have used the main blade a bit, but I just do not like the crooked secondary blades.

The 3 3/4" Colt was about $20. I really wanted to like that knife. The size and shape are just about perfect, and I think it looks good. I really like the size and shape of that main clip blade. Unfortunately, it was awfully hard to open it to admire or use it. The blade well is just not wide enough for the three blades. When fully closed the main blade must be forced between the secondaries, then it is jammed so tight that I could not open it without a coin. I ground down the shoulders on the secondary tangs to made more room. That helped but still too hard to open. I noticed that the main blade tang was a bit flared out on one side, so I ground that off. That maybe helped a bit, but still too hard to open. So I took a jeweler's file and rounded the corners on the main blade tang. Finally I could open it with my thumbnail! Did I mention that the secondary blades were spraddled like a new born Colts?
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This little review is a bit of an experiment for me: took longer and is longer than I intended. First time I have created a new topic here.

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:27 am
by btrwtr
Well written and enjoyable review. Thanks for posting.

Wayne

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:21 pm
by jerryd6818
Dan, I have a Marbles MR216 Congress Whittler that was made in China. It is also a split back spring. The blades all open and close nicely with good (not great) snap. None of the blades have half-stops. The secondary blades are very thin and "willowy", or should I say "limber". It's not the traditional "blade wobble" where the blade has side play in it's mounting, the blades themselves bend.

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:57 pm
by Dinadan
Wayne - thank you for the kind words.

Jerry - the secondary blades on my marbles whittler are at least as thick as on the other three. I would not say that they are limber, but I like my blades to be straight and aligned with the blade well. Here is a photo, but be aware that I have somewhat straightened the secondary blades on the Marbles, and very strongly straightened the secondary blades on the Colt. I really prefer the whittlers with a coping blade, or a clip blade, for one of the secondary blades. Better yet would be a full on sheepsfoot.

Left to right: Marbles, Colt, Klaas, and Rough Rider.

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:49 am
by junebug
VERY NICE REVIEW!!!! 8) 8)
THANKS FER POSTIN' DINADAN ::handshake::

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:28 am
by philco
Nice review Dindan.

They call the procedure employed in "bending" those blades so they fit properly CRINKING. It is a time honored part of the cutlers craft and is done to allow multiple blades to fit together properly in the blade well. Those smaller blades are spread out on purpose. You'll even find it on some high end cutlery.

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:35 am
by tjmurphy
I've got a couple of RR's, one small whittler that JerryD sent me that sits on my desk and gets used all the time, a French Tickler and an Electrician's knife that Carrmillus sent me. Never worked them very hard but they take and hold an edge as good as any. To me the fit and finish is pretty good all around and for the money you can't go wrong.

Re: Four (make it five) China Whittlers

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:23 pm
by Dinadan
My little Klass whittler is just a good knife. The walk and talk are just about perfect for me, and it keeps getting better. The blades take a edge. Since I like that one so much, I ordered another Klass, a lock back whittler. Not a bad knife except for one little detail. The nail nick in the main blade is positioned behind a secondary blade in such a way that the main blade cannot be opened without opening the blade in front. First time I have encountered that flaw. The fit and finish are not real good, and the main blade is not real straight, either. Oh well!

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:09 pm
by jerryd6818
tjmurphy wrote:one small whittler that JerryD sent me that sits on my desk and gets used all the time,
I did? Are you sure? I don't remember that. ::shrug::
Let's see a picture.

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:36 am
by tjmurphy
2 15/16" closed. Pretty sure it was you, Jerry. See here: http://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_f ... er#p244018
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Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:26 am
by Monkeyboy
Mel,
excellent review of the whittler patterns.
i really like whittlers, their handle shapes, blade configurations and number of blades.
i have a few American made whittlers and a few Chinese made. the Matbles canoe whittler with Tortise Shell is very well made. i'd like to try a Colt stag bone someday.

thanks for posting

buzz

Re: Four China Whittlers

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:52 am
by Dinadan
Thank you, Buzz. The Rough Rider and the small Klass are my favorites of the ones I discussed here.