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Bought a cheapy to play with.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:32 am
by dewman
I bought this on e-bay, $14.01 delivered to my door. It has some "issues", but the overall shape of the blades and the scales kinda' interested me enough to buy it and play with it.

It has a crack under the center pin. Quite visable, if you look good. I figure I can use a very small Dremel burr and remove the pin....trying VERY HARD not to enlarge the existing hole. Then, fabricate another pin that will fit in the hole, force some two part epoxy into the crack and hole, clamp the crack shut till the epoxy oozes out and wait and see what happens. Then, remove the excess epoxy and polish the new pin. Also, according to the seller, the bolsters have some "handling marks". From what I can see in the photos, there's nothing I can't polish out.

What'd ya' think? Yes? No? A waste of time? Money?.....or a good adventure without much outlay and a learning experience in the process?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:57 am
by redferd
My old eyes can't see well enough to tell what brand it is? Could it be a Frost?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:16 am
by jonet143
is the pin damaged or only the bone?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:21 am
by dewman
redferd wrote:My old eyes can't see well enough to tell what brand it is? Could it be a Frost?
It was advertised as an "Old Parker Cut. Co." knife. Could be Japanese made, most likely.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:22 am
by dewman
jonet143 wrote:is the pin damaged or only the bone?
From looking at the photo, it appears as if someone "staked" the pin and in the process cracked the bone.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:28 am
by jonet143
oh, you don't have in hand?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:36 am
by dewman
jonet143 wrote:oh, you don't have in hand?
Nope....just sent off the MO today. Any suggestions on my repair approach?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:39 am
by jonet143
i would not remove pin unless necessary.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:14 am
by dewman
jonet143 wrote:i would not remove pin unless necessary.
Well....I'm thinking it is probably "squashed", making it larger in diameter than it originally was, thus creating the crack. I suspect that I won't be able to "squeeze" the crack back into place with the pin being bigger than it once originally was. Of course, this is all speculation untill I actually get the knife in hand for a look-see.

What would be your professional approach to the problem, if you don't mind giving up some "trade secrets"? Perhaps just fill the crack with epoxy, try clamping it, then remove the excess and dress it down and call it good?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:54 am
by El Lobo
Removing the center pin will not improve the crack. Most likely, you'll lose that piece of bone around the pin. I'd superglue it...sand lightly...and then a little mineral oil to make sure the bone isn't dried out. Or, you might send it to one of the talented embellishers who post in Knife Repair. The pattern is cool, but it isn't a collectable knife, by most folks standards, so I'd use and enjoy it.

JMO.

Bill

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:36 pm
by muskrat man
It's a Japan parker (they are rather good quality and take a good edge believe it or not!), had planned on bidding on it, but lost it while I was out in the shop ::dang:: . I love a rooster comb pattern, just haven't been able to find one on my budget. Good luck with your project. Your plan of attack sounds good. but here's wha I would do myself, very carefully remove the pin, move the backspring(s) out of the way and superglue the crack and clamp it in after letting it set about 5 min unclamp it sand it down then either buff it or apply a little oil like ElLobo suggested. then compress the springs and carefully slidein a new pin, then just grind the end flt with the scale and do not peen it. if it were to pop loose while installing the pin, fill the crack with glue then immediately start sanding over it with 220 grit paper letting all the dust fill that crack. Then buff it back up and you're good to go.

But if I had the knife in hand I think some new scales and filework would look mighty nice on a pattern like that

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:54 pm
by redferd
I don't know if this would work or not? I repaired a dent in my guitar by using baking soda and crazy glue. I sprinkled the baking soda into the dent then carefully put drops of crazy glue onto the soda. It "smoked" a little and dried very hard. I then sanded it and painted it. It is very hard but workable.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:03 pm
by jonet143
baking soda?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:58 pm
by dewman
muskrat man wrote: I love a rooster comb pattern, just haven't been able to find one on my budget.
So....it's a "Rooster comb pattern" eh? Didn't know what it was called, but I though it was rather interesting. Kind of a cross between a Warncliff and a Pruning blade....sorta.

New scales and file work? Man....on my budget at present, that's not in the cards. Recently had to spend $4,150 on the truck transmission and transfer case, then another $2,375 on dental work. So....it's strictly bidding on "cheapies" for me....and lots of Top Ramen!

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:11 pm
by muskrat man
dewman wrote:
muskrat man wrote: I love a rooster comb pattern, just haven't been able to find one on my budget.
So....it's a "Rooster comb pattern" eh? Didn't know what it was called, but I though it was rather interesting. Kind of a cross between a Warncliff and a Pruning blade....sorta.

New scales and file work? Man....on my budget at present, that's not in the cards. Recently had to spend $4,150 on the truck transmission and transfer case, then another $2,375 on dental work. So....it's strictly bidding on "cheapies" for me....and lots of Top Ramen!
My initial thoughts were a DIY project, since that's what you bought it for :)

new knife

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:07 pm
by celticastronomer
I spent $4000 on knives...I have no teeth and I walk .