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I*XL

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:53 pm
by mickeyevans
there is a oil the joints mark on the reverse of blade
hope this knife is before 1971 when Rodgers, Imperial and Schrade bought the name
I don't see 'Celebrated' on the markings, which gives me doubt about it
Mick

Re: I*XL

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:58 pm
by FRJ
That's gonna be before 1971.

Re: I*XL

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:46 am
by mickeyevans
any one know anything about this knife?

Re: I*XL

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:28 am
by Iron Hoarder
The square kick denotes that it is definitely an older blade. They didn't make many with the all metal cast scales.

Re: I*XL

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:19 pm
by mickeyevans
In 1971 J Rodgers bought the company or merged, then soon after Imperial Schrade got it
I'm trying to figure out if this knife pre dates 1971, which I think it does and if 'oil the joints' stamp helps me date it
I have Owls Head knives with 'oil the joints' also, well back to the books and jewelers loupe
I got it rather cheap so I thought it was not too old, but i had to have at least one

Re: I*XL

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:13 pm
by mickeyevans
just joined britishblade.com to do more research and I find our friend Iron Hoarder there, Wow. impressive credentials son, they sure do lay it on over there, I will keep your titles and my Irish/ Welsh heritage a secret , LOL
no need to post my knife there is there? or do you think I should?

Re: I*XL

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:50 pm
by Shearer
Wostenholm George I*XL ENGLAND on Blade 1891 to 1971 (Blades 7TH Edition )
If you pick a year you have one in eighty of being it right.

Re: I*XL

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:08 am
by Iron Hoarder
The few vintage people over there that could provide more information don't come around much. Smiling Knife is on here and he will know as much as anyone else from BB. You might ask Miller Brothers on here to check his IXL Catalog for you. The knife definitely predates 1971 by a wide margin.

Re: I*XL

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:38 pm
by mickeyevans
thanks Iron Hoarder, I think I will stay here and keep learning about my new hobby and collection
everyone has been so helpful and friendly to a new/old ignorant guy
I have avoided Case, Remington and English knives because they seem like encyclopedias onto themselves
Being from the Hudson Valley and passing the statue of McKinley and waterfalls with rubble of NY knife factory still there in Walden many, many times
and seeing the Ellenville plant close like it did, devastating that town, got me interested in history, from the Sheffield cutlers starting to work the Conn early American knife Co's, to the moves down here in the Hudson Vally. throw in the Civil war connection and I have enough on my plate
am including the Catt, Champman, Robeson and Case family as I spread out too. Just got my first NYKC hammer brand

Re: I*XL

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:58 pm
by mickeyevans
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So , with this knife the side cover is also the handle, or you could say the scale is the side cover, or what should I say, never saw anything like it, but it does make sense. I have some ornate German knives with metal handles/scales/side covers. I will have to go look at them with my loupe

Re: I*XL

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:40 pm
by Iron Hoarder
They were made that way because it was cheaper and faster to assemble than the traditional method. I just realized you are in Lynchburg. Should be some great old knives floating around there if you can find people that are willing to let loose of them. At one time it was the second richest city in the country. Still some interesting vestiges of that time if you look around for them. Amazing how things change. ::tu::

Re: I*XL

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:58 pm
by mickeyevans
I just moved here from New York and just got into old pocket knives
I am joining a club that has members around here
my brother in law has allot, he go them years ago when stores went out of business and sold all the old new stock
those days are over now, everyone knows pocket knives have value, but I am going to find ways and you folks should see some here
I use ebay now

Re: I*XL

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:48 pm
by Miller Bro's
I would date that one to around the WWI era.

Re: I*XL

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:20 am
by mickeyevans
thanks MB, I learned allot trying to get that opinion, across the pond and back, joined BB, posting is diff.
My first knife world arrived today and I found a club near me and a schedule of knife shows, hope to meet some of you guys and the Authors of my new books. I think I joined blade mag also but nothing yet and I did join NKCA at Charlies suggestion, but again nothing from them but a invite to join iknife collector. I joined blade forum also, but I like it here the best. just got my new AAPK, GEC to go with my AAPK CSC
I got it bad, but it feels so good

Re: I*XL

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:48 am
by Miller Bro's
mickeyevans wrote:joined BB, posting is diff.
Waiting for a response from that site is like waiting for paint to dry.
mickeyevans wrote:just got my new AAPK, GEC to go with my AAPK CSC
I got it bad, but it feels so good
:lol: No cure as far as I know.

Re: I*XL

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:15 am
by orvet
mickeyevans wrote:I got it bad, but it feels so good
He got the disease! :shock:
Ain't no goin' back now! ::nod::







:mrgreen:

Re: I*XL

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:28 am
by Mason
Knives with all metal handles like yours were produced by Wostenholm at least as far back as the late 1800s. They are found in several sizes and shapes and with one or two blades that range from spear point, sheep foot, spey, and pruning types. The first seen evidence of a model very similar to yours is in a 1910 Wostenholm catalog and the last known example found is from a 1938 Wostenholm catalog with a picture shown from the later. Note that a dot appears in the place of a star between the letters I and X on the handle and the addition of a small tip bolster. Your knife probably dates to around the WWI era or a little later, as Miller Bro's suggested.