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Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:15 pm
by Skinnypig
I've managed to find some info from the forums and elsewhere, but nothing specific to the below knives (except the first one) If any of it's wrong corrections are welcome.

I'm basically looking for age/maker/manufacturer/value/ any or all of those would be great. Also if it's better to leave them in current condition or try and de-rust/clean them?

Some of these are probably junkers, but I'll start with the most interesting.

I found one almost identical to this on an Antique knife website the so-called "Wharncliffe Whittler" made by Radiant Sheffield. The only difference being the one that I have has a totally different secondary blade. The date given was 1880 to 1950, which is quite broad. Scales are Waterfall Celluloid? about 2.5" closed
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This next one; I can't quite read the last letter of the makers stamp. It looks like James 'C' or 'G' or 'O' ?
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The next one; all I can make out from the stamp is 'Howson'
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Next one says no.30 Sheffield made on the blade stamp and then an engraving on the blade. I have induced eye strain trying to read this thing, I just can't make out what it says. Word ends in 'lime' ?

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Small knife about 2" closed. I think it is a modern 70's knife? says Richards Sheffield on the blade
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Next one is the same size as the radiant and says Butler Art on the blade. Found out from this forum it's George Butler. Not sure of date though.
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And last, this is actually my mums knife - I think she said it was her Grandpa's. So quite old I guess? The stamp has long be worn off and I can't read what's left.
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Thanks for your time!

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:53 pm
by knives-are-quiet
I might be able to help you a little.

Your second knife is a quill knife. Handles look to be made of ivory.
I'm not too sure of the maker or the age but there was one from Sheffield "Jameson & Co".

"George Butler knife"
~1848 to 1926~

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Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:01 pm
by knifetime
They are diffidently not junkers,great looking knives.

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:15 pm
by Skinnypig
Thank you. Jameson & Co brings up some interesting info. Also the Butler dates. Quill knife huh? Then I just need to find out when quill's went out of use for a rough date..

@Knifetime - Junkers made have been a bit strong lol. It's just some of them are heavily rusted and/or damaged.

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:27 pm
by knives-are-quiet
Skinnypig wrote:Thank you. Jameson & Co brings up some interesting info. Also the Butler dates. Quill knife huh? Then I just need to find out when quill's went out of use for a rough date..

@Knifetime - Junkers made have been a bit strong lol. It's just some of them are heavily rusted and/or damaged.
Looks like a quill knife to me but I could be wrong.
I'm sure others with more knowledge will post in.

Old post with interesting info on quill knives.
"click on link below"
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 35&t=21968

JW~

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:38 pm
by knife7knut
The first knife is a serpentine pen;a whittler normally would have 3 blades and is made by Humphries of Sheffield.
The second knife looks like a corn knife to me rather than a quill.The nail mark cut all the way through the tang is indicative of a really old knife.I haven't searched through all the older cutler's marks yet and have yet to come across the name Jameson.
The third knife is probably Harrison Bros. & Howson.
If you could supply clear closeup pictures of the stamps someone hear may be able to decipher them.Nice looking old knives!

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:51 pm
by Skinnypig
Alright thanks! I'll try and get some better shot of the stamps, may have to do a little bit of de-rusting..

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:44 pm
by IMBand
The fourth knife says 'Richards Streamline Sheffield' on the blade.

IM
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Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:44 pm
by jerryd6818
Use a lead pencil to de-rust. Removes most of the rust without damaging the blade. Just scrub out the rust areas like you are trying to mark out something you just wrote without using the eraser.

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:51 pm
by Skinnypig
IMBand wrote:The fourth knife says 'Richards Streamline Sheffield' on the blade.

IM
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Streamline ::doh:: Thank you!
jerryd6818 wrote:Use a lead pencil to de-rust. Removes most of the rust without damaging the blade. Just scrub out the rust areas like you are trying to mark out something you just wrote without using the eraser.
Thanks for the tip. This will be good for trying to get the rust out of the grooves and lettering.

I've actually managed to roughly clean some of them up to reveal the stamps and updated my first post with pictures, although I'm not sure how helpful it will be since most of them don't have pictorial stamps just names. However the 'James' knife is a lot more clear now and it appears to me the knife had been stamped before the long groove had been cut, cutting of part of the stamp off. From what's left it looks like James 0 1 (?)

edit: of course it says 'Jameson' ::doh::

Re: Some old folding knives (Sheffield)

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:06 pm
by jerryd6818
I love those Richards "lamp post" stamps.