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cigar cutters
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:14 pm
by leepost
Before anyone gets excited, I know this sight is about pocket knives!! But I have a old cigar cutter with a stanhope viewer and pearl handles from early 1900s told it was in the busch beer family, trying to find a collector or some info on it ,looks like wester & butz maker Thanks
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:24 pm
by smiling-knife
Hi leepost. Sounds very interesting

. Please show a pic if possible. Thanks

s-k
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:26 pm
by johnnierotten
Yeah,post a pic,Bro.sounds cool!

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:31 pm
by smiling-knife
So far, according to Goins.... Wester Bros of NY (1904-1967) were the sole importers of Wester & Butz products from Solingen Germany.

s-k
cigar cutters
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:34 pm
by leepost
thanks I will get a picture on soon 11
naugatuck
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:42 am
by leepost
naugatuck picture[/img] this is a busch beer family cigar cutter/knife with a stanhope viewer lens where the end rivet was for the blade .the picture is all orginal of his mistress in 1875. thats verified!!It has pearl handles about 2" closed 3and half open all in working cont.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:55 am
by johnnierotten
Thats cool,I've never seen one like that.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:36 am
by orvet
Cool!
Most of the "V" cutters I have seen from the last 50+ years have the "V" cutter positioned so that you put the end of the cutter on the end of the cigar. This is the first one I have seen that cuts perpendicular to the cigar. It is also the first one I have seen with a Stanhope viewer in it.
Very nice find. As far as the forum goes, it is a cutter that fits in the pocket, hence I don't find it a great stretch to put it here. It is pocket cutlery.
Dale
cigar cutter
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:47 am
by leepost
I found out in late 1800s early 1900s cigars were pointed on ends they called them cutters gilitenes
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:05 am
by gmusic
Can we get a peek at the mistress?
lol................cool piece.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:11 am
by jonet143
that's a neat old tool. is it a wester & butz or naugatuck? i'm confused. is there any advertising on it? most of the a-b stanhopes i've seen are embellished.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:46 am
by PA Knives
HI!
The Stanhope lens will make it more valuable than if not adorned with it. It would easily add another $100 to $200 to the price alone. Interesting that this non-knife related items is so collectable. Nice knife
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:50 pm
by sunburst
Hello Leepost,
That is really a jewel of a piece, I agree that the stanhope really sets it apart in functionality and value..
Sunburst
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:01 am
by orvet
I finally got time to scan my favorite cigar cutter, an Al Mar Executive.
IIRC, the blade is ATS-34. The lighter that slips in the case is a Mini Bic. I used this for years as one of my EDCs. The blade is so sharp that you can make a clean "V" cut or cut the entire end off of the wrapper leaf of the cigar, my personal favorite way to cut a good cigar.
IMO, the "V" concentrates the smoke through a smaller area and tends to get bitter, especially with stronger cigars. Also most guillotine style "V" cutters are not sharp enough to cut cleanly without mashing the head of the cigar, often tearing the fine wrapper.
One of the advantages of managing 3 smoke shops (one was about 3/4 cutlery & all sold knives) was that I got hundreds of excellent salesman's sample cigars each year.
Ah, the good old days!
Dale
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:12 pm
by jonet143
hey leepost, show us a picture of the wester and butz cigar cutter with the stanhope viewer.
cigar cutter
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:23 pm
by leepost
its a naugatuck and thats the picture the lens viewer is were the rivet would be for the blade!!!!
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:44 pm
by jonet143
i'm sorry, at first you said you had one by wester and butz with a stanhope. confusing.
cigar cutter
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:05 pm
by leepost
thats what our friends at stanhope told me! than with further research and help from AAPK find out it was naugatuck! big difference on value