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Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:39 am
by Capt. Farrel
A few days ago I was lucky to win on a Linder Morningstar. The "Morningstar" brand seems to be gone for a long time and you just see them sporadically on Ebay. I am not quite familliar with the Linder history but their website states that they still produce knives in Solingen-Ohligs. Nevertheless a good part of their knives seem to come from China today. I might be wrong and would love to hear from the specialists.
This knife looks like it was never used. It had a bit of rust and was dull overall so I did some sanding and polishing. Does anybody know about the brand of this particular knife?

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Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:46 am
by jerryd6818
Even though I've had a Linder on my wish list for a long time, I know nothing about them That is one fine looking jack. Congratulations.

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:01 pm
by Capt. Farrel
Thank you Jerry! Unfortunately the main blade shows some pitting. I didn´t want to grind too much material of it so I left it like this. It´s been a ling time since Linder operated under the name "Linder & Co. Ohligs" so I suppose the knife is at least 30 to 40 years old. ::hmm::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:02 pm
by basser5
Linder & Co., Junkerwerk, Solingen. ...Brand name Morning Star (Morgenstern)
Registered in 1898 by Eduard Linder. Still in Business as of 1998


Tim

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:06 pm
by jerryd6818
Actually (in my opinion) it's in excellent condition for it's age. I'm tickled to get the knives I collect in comparable condition. That's a very nice pattern and a very nice example as well.

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:12 pm
by Capt. Farrel
Thank you Tim! They work now under the name "Carl Linder Nachf. e.K." which means "Carl Linder successor, registered merchant". It seems that the Linder company was split at some point in time. The Linder Junkerwerk in Solingen is now producing foamed plastics and a Linder GmbH in Ohligs is making canvas blinds! I wonder if they are connected in any way... ::shrug::

@Jerry: This was easy, just a bit of sanding and a few seconds on the buffer. Some collectors want to keep their knives in the most original condition but I just don´t like them rusty and dull.... ::shrug::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:24 pm
by basser5
Your welcome Frank!

Carl Linder Nachf was a different company.
It was originally Carl and Robert Linder Stahlwaren-fabrik.

I have reference to over a dozen Linder companies that the families intertwine.
If you would like this info Frank, i would be happy to send it to you.


Tim

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:14 pm
by Capt. Farrel
That would be nice Tim! I have won another Linder Morningstar (cornering the market here... :mrgreen: ) which will need a bit more TLC, so knowing the company that made them would add to it.

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:21 pm
by Miller Bro's
That knife was made before 1940, IMO ::nod::

Nice old knife ::tu::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:58 pm
by basser5
Pm sent.......Happy reading ::tu::


Tim

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:50 pm
by Capt. Farrel
Tim´s documents show (thank´s again Tim!) that the jack knife was produced anywhere between 1939 and 1970.

@Miller Bro´s: It´s interesting that you put it to 1939 as I would have thought it would be from around 1965 to 1970, but this is an uneducated guess by me anyway... ::hmm::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:59 pm
by Capt. Farrel
Meanwhile I won another Linder Morningstar (guess I am kinda hooked....). This one is a stockman and it´s condition is not as good as the one before. There´s a little rust on the blades which can be removed easily but the handles are made of celloloid. There is a bit of shrinkage and staining of the shield and the pins so a re-handle of the knife would be good. I will wait with it until I feel more sure-footed in doing such a job. Don´t want to spoil this one....

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Dang, can´t stop... ::dang::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:05 pm
by Miller Bro's
I would not worry about the blades they look good with the patina on them, however I would worry about that celluloid out gassing, if it is not doing so already and that is what caused the spots on the blades. If that is the case you will need to remove the handles right away before any more damage is done. ::paranoid::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:10 pm
by Capt. Farrel
Yes, the handles will have to go. Unbelievable they used cello for so long... ::dang::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:10 pm
by Miller Bro's
This one was made in the 1980`s, never used, just decided to self destruct one day :shock:

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:07 pm
by Capt. Farrel
:shock: :shock: :shock: Wow, selfdestruct is the right word! I simply can´t believe why they used potential hazardous stuff like cello for so long. ::facepalm::
I would have thought that it was banned long ago..... ::hmm:: Do you know how long it took to desintegrate like this?

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:44 pm
by Miller Bro's
Capt. Farrel wrote:I would have thought that it was banned long ago.....
IIRC it was banned, but who is going to enforce it?
Capt. Farrel wrote:Do you know how long it took to disintegrate like this?
Could have been a couple days, a week or a month, don`t know exactly. It was fine when I bought a box full of knives, I put these newer ones aside and the next time I went inside the box, no more than 6 months later, this is what I found :o :shock: ::disgust::

This stuff is like a time bomb, it is sure to go off you just don`t know exactly when ::paranoid::

Re: Linder Ohligs Morningstar

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:29 pm
by Capt. Farrel
Goodness, that is quick! I´ve read so much about cello here that I started to avoid it. Timebomb is the right designation for those knives.... ::tear::