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How Many of These are REAL First Generations
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:11 am
by Hukk
I saw these 4 Bulldog Tobacco King Sowbellies on eBay and thought they will make a good poll to vote on.
The Question is, how many of these are real first generation knives?
http://cgi.ebay.com/BULLDOG-TOBACCO-SER ... dZViewItem
A couple hints, we have had these knives in our discussions before.
If you have them,
Parker's Pocket Knife Traders Price Guide check the differences between vol 3 and vol 7, the books themselves will give the answer.
I'll let the poll run for 7 days.
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:02 pm
by olderdogs1
Hukk,
Being from Kentucky I sure do like the knife on the top.

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Tom
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:44 am
by Hukk
Enlarge the photos on ebay, there are at least 3 things that are different on this Kentucky Tobacco King than on the other 3 knives.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:22 am
by singin46
Spey blades certainly differ don't they?
Singin46
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:38 am
by singin46
OK Hukk, takin a shot here, Kentucky is not authentic because, 1. Main clip is staight, no bend in it. 2. leaf sheild is more of a point, others are not. 3.
one improper blade, sheepfoot blades. The authentic blades are Main Clip,Coping and Spey. One even has a pen blade
I may be wrong Hukk but I'm tryin
Singin46
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:10 am
by Hukk
The tobacco leaf being pointy on the Kentucky is only 1 indicator that it could be the real one. Look at the differences in stag, blades, and serrations in the pulls, you're close.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:27 am
by singin46
Is the blade order correct in that KENTUCKY with 1 CLIP 1 COPING and 1 SHEEPFOOT? And the pull on the main is lower to the point of the blade?
Still tryin Hukk

The stag is not matched from side to side or color is not showin as much white at the edge, cmon man. Others are too matched.
Singin46

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:00 am
by singin46
I actually thought the KENTUCKY was the fake originally. Because I thought
all blades on it were wrong except for the Coping blade. Now I'm a little lost.
Singin46
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:08 am
by johnnierotten
Hey Perry,what do they call that???.....Bass ackwards??

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:31 am
by singin46
YES, I am tryin to learn somethin Johnnie but I'm....gettin pretty tired now.

maybe there should be a punch in there somewhere.
I give up Hukk, my stones hurt.
Struggle 46

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:32 pm
by Hukk
Here is a picture of the 4 Tobacco Kings the ones on the right are true first generations.
Click to enlarge picture
Check the following.
1. Pointy tobaco leaf
2. STAG
3. The number of serrations in the pull
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:27 am
by olderdogs1
Hukk,
The Ky. knife is the real deal.

I never noticed but some of the real ones have an extra pin holding the stag on. The good 1sts have the pointy shield but the real key is the stag. Serrations are a little hard to track even for us old timers, seems a few exceptions keep croping up.

Not too hard when we can see the pictures of yours. That bright white on the ends of the stag is not nearly as desirable in my opinion,

I would guess to most of us. THe Ebay market still is having a hard time but they are learning at least with regard to the top end. There are always a few knowledgable knife people around.
Great post,
Tom
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:36 am
by Hukk
olderdogs1 wrote:Hukk,
The Ky. knife is the real deal.

I never noticed but some of the real ones have an extra pin holding the stag on. The good 1sts have the pointy shield but the real key is the stag. Serrations are a little hard to track even for us old timers, seems a few exceptions keep croping up.

Not too hard when we can see the pictures of yours. That bright white on the ends of the stag is not nearly as desirable in my opinion,

I would guess to most of us. THe Ebay market still is having a hard time but they are learning at least with regard to the top end. There are always a few knowledgable knife people around.
Great post,
Tom
Yes, only one is a real first generation. Tom gives an excellent explanation!
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:08 am
by Hukk
I guess folks are starting to wise up, the seller did not meet the reserve by about $80.00
NO SALE! Only the Kentucky in my opinion was genuine by the differences described and pointed out in this post. Thanks to all who participated.