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A question about this German Eye

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:22 pm
by sunburst
I was admiring this German Eye Carl Schlieper "RAZ" blade knife and noticed the tang was stamped Carl Schlieper Solingen, Alemania.

Does anyone recongnize Alemania ??? I have never seen that before..

Sunburst

http://cgi.ebay.com/German-Eye-Brand-RA ... dZViewItem

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:26 pm
by smiling-knife
Hi Sunburst. Yes... Alemania is Spanish for Germany. I have a few Boker knives marked with Alemania. These were made in Argentina. I don't know if there is a connection between Schlieper and Boker though. :) s-k

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:44 pm
by sunburst
Ok now it rings a bell ::idea:: now I remember folks talking about Alemania a while back and I believe it involved Boker. Thank you SK your knowledge is most appreciated :D .

Knowing this makes me ask another question, why would they spell Germany in spanish on a knife made in Solingen ???

Thanks again,

Sunburst

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:53 pm
by smiling-knife
Good question. It was not made in Solingen. It was produced in a Spanish speaking country. :) s-k

IMO this knife is dubious. The fan or whatever that is on the back of the tang does not look like the Schlieper eye trademark. 'Cast Steel' was used a 150 years ago. A nonsensical stamp on a '1950s' knife.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:16 pm
by El Lobo
The "EYE" in question is, I believe, a FAN. This mark was also used by Schlieper (Levine's, if you have it). The razor can be opened like a one-armed man's blade...by hooking it on the leg or pocket...if you're careful. :shock: ::nod::

JMO, of course.

Bill

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:20 pm
by smiling-knife
Thanks for the correction on the 'fan' mark El Lobo. Perhaps dubious was the incorrect term. It may be a genuine Schlieper produced in a Spanish speaking country. :) s-k

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:22 pm
by El Lobo
Hey,

You nailed it S-K ::nod:: ...I just rechecked my aging memory in Levine's #4. :D

Bill

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:33 pm
by sunburst
Well thanks to you smart fellers I have learned something today. I had no idea that Eye brand had farmed out their knives to Spain or a spanish speaking country in the past. Interesting..

Thank you,

Sunburst

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:17 pm
by El Lobo
Pure hypote...hyepot...hipoth...er, guesswork here...

Perhaps the knife was made on contract... by Boker...for Schlieper, and that's why it's a FAN brand versus an EYE??

Just a WAG. ::shrug::

Bill

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:11 am
by jonet143
what i dug up. brl3 says the fan brand was not for export.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:51 am
by justold52
jonet143 wrote:what i dug up. brl3 says the fan brand was not for export.
O so this is an illegal alien then. She jumped over the borders?

This too made me think... :shock:

When I was in Germany and looked at a local map it was called Deutschland but yet we never called it that. All other countries I was in called it Deutschland too. why is this ??? :?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:15 am
by knifeaholic
It couls have been made in Solingen...but made for sale in a variety of other countrieds that included Spanish speaking countries - that is the story IIRC of the many Bokers that are marked ALEMENIA.