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What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:56 pm
by philco
Put on your thinking caps and tell me what you see wrong with this knife currently listed on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-BOY-SCO ... 2c6c0534d5
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:20 pm
by jerryd6818
I have nothing else to do so I'll play.
Is it that they want $145 for it?
I know hardly anything about Scout knives but I'm going to guess anyway. My serious answer is, to me it looks like an Imperial blade in an Ulster knife. The only Imperial scouts with that phillips screwdriver blade I've seen, have a round Scout emblem.

Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:40 pm
by philco
Jerry you are so close..........
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:57 pm
by jerryd6818
Really.

I don't mind being wrong as long as I can get close.

Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:17 pm
by TripleF
Nothin'. looks good to me.......
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:19 pm
by basser5
I'm not a scout knife collector, but the shield looks glued on , not inlaid. "wrong shield"??
Tim
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:21 pm
by patch1
I thought that only five blade with a phillips was the 10th Mountain Div. by Ulster.
Patch1
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:17 pm
by bestgear
It should have a round shield vs. the First Class shield?
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:32 pm
by Shearer
Bottle opener wrong end
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:50 pm
by philco
bestgear wrote:It should have a round shield vs. the First Class shield?
WE HAVE A WINNER!
The blade arrangement is correct, the handle material is appropriate but the shield is wrong. Imperial did use that shield on a couple of five bladed scouts (wood handled and faux mother of pearl), but they used the round shield on the delrin handled ones. I'd bet (if I were a betting man) that if you removed that shield, you'd find a round hole beneath it.
basser5 wrote:I'm not a scout knife collector, but the shield looks glued on , not inlaid. "wrong shield"??
Tim
Honorable mention goes to Basser5 
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:56 pm
by jerryd6818
Not if it's really an Ulster. Compare it to this junker, which is real. The difference here (besides the broken stuff) is the shield and the tang stamp.
Edit: I see I was typing while someone came up with the answer. Since Imperial and Ulster were possibly made in the same factory, I'm going to leave this up for comparison.
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:18 pm
by Meinblackshear
Why on earth would someone want to alter an imperial knife?
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:55 pm
by jerryd6818
Meinblackshear wrote:Why on earth would someone want to alter an imperial knife?

Good question but you just never know about people or what they're going to do next. We have several knife mechanics here who have altered inexpensive knives because they had bad handles or a bad blade or just because they could.
Welcome to AAPK. Glad to have you aboard.
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:35 am
by philco
Meinblackshear wrote:Why on earth would someone want to alter an imperial knife?
I've seen several "incorrect" Boy Scout knives sell for fairly substantial money on ebay. ($100 and up........sometimes way up) so there is a profit motive for cobbling up something you can market to the unknowing and unsuspecting as being rare and thus valueable.
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:31 am
by Miller Bro's
I say the knife is all original and has not been messed with.
This shield was used on this pattern knife, except with wood and simulated pearl handles, it is not out of the question that they would use the same shield on the simulated jigged bone version as well.
Re: What's Wrong With This Picture ?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:21 am
by Ramrod
Sure looks like it sits on top though.
Mark