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just aquired - any body know bokers?

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:10 pm
by jonet143
just aquired. i believe this is an old boker. i think i can make out the boker tree on the rear of one tang. anybody know about old bokers and can help identify? 4 7/8" closed. brass liners, nickle pins. snaps like one of sunbursts gators.
anybody?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:50 am
by jonet143
wow, we need some boker collectors out there. ::shrug::

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:37 am
by Sqg1
Glad to see your knife. I have one just like it that I was trying it ID. I do not see any marking on mine except the numbers 6500. I would also like to know when it was made. Good luck, Allan

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:54 am
by jonet143
hey allen, post a pic of it! i'm not sure it's a boker. the only reference picture i have shows a boker tree as part of the handle stamp.
but i think i see the 1900> tree on one of the tangs.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:29 pm
by ButchTN
Hi johnnie and allan. That knife is not a Boker and what you thought was the Treebrand logo on the back of the tang is actually a four leaf clover. The front tang on both blades should be stamped "W. H. Morley & Sons Germany" and the backside of each tang is stamped with a four leaf clover. The knife itself dates between 1913 - 1927. Allan I dont know why yours has numbers on the tang (because there shouldnt be any numbers whatsoever) unless the blade has been replaced. I hope this helps you guys out.


Butch

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:48 pm
by jonet143
hey butch, thanks for the input. here's a rough drawing of what i believe is a boker tree on tang. i have a clover tang moreley and this one ain't.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:22 pm
by sunburst
Hey Johnnie I thought I saw you poking around my orange grove the other day with your pad and pencil..You stay out of there, Ya hear"..

I have a few trees that look that poor.. :oops: :cry:

Take care and forgive my intrusion to your post.. :mrgreen:

Sunburst

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:30 pm
by jonet143
that's ok ralph, i was actually lookin for a gator to turn into gumbo and boots, knife sheaths. sketching your tree was just a subtrifuge. :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:05 am
by justold52
That family-tree looks good to me. :wink:

I have seen some family-trees that do not fork.

I wounder why? :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:38 am
by ButchTN
Hi johnnie. Maybe more than one company made those knives because I have the exact same knife as the one you pictured and mine is stamped morley with the clover leaf. Oh well let me know what you find out.

Butch

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:03 am
by jonet143
lots of cutlery companys made office knives. most are in this configuration. handle imprints are different, some only slightly. using my loop, it's definitely a tree symbol. according to the standard knife collector's guide, fourth ed. the tree i can see is the 1900-1924 version. blades are original to frame as far as i can determine.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:23 am
by singin46
Hey Johnnie my 2 cents, Maybe a Shapleigh Howce or a Keen made kmife.
Not sure though. ::shrug::

Singin46 :mrgreen:

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:00 am
by jonet143
but what about the tree symbol? i have'nt been drinkin'.... much :lol: it's really there. maybe i can do a tracing, like a tombstone. ::shrug::

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:34 am
by smiling-knife
This is an early 1900s Boker. Has reg. 1907 and the tree is quite clear if you enlarge the photo. Does it look similar to this one?

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:50 pm
by jonet143
that's it s-k. looks just like that only more worn. thanks gor the pic.

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:38 pm
by OLDSMOKE
Good morning to you all, I have spent most of the morning serching the pages to see if anyone else had one of these little office knives made by Boker before I started a new thread, the reason I ask is that I have seen Office knives made by Camillus, Utica, Ulster and this little one I have by Boker and was curious as to how many companies made them, I heard of one made by Winchester but I did not get to see that one.
Now we have the W. H. Morley, any more ??
Rusty

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:38 am
by Corbin0192
I was browsing around (internet insomnia ::smirk:: ) and I stumbled on this knife. This ones a Keen Kutter but I hope it helps. The link is: http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 12546.html

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:44 am
by OLDSMOKE
I love the ole Keen Kutter, there for a few years you could not pickup anything with the KK design on it with out it costing you an arm and a leg I wonder why things have slacked off on them.
My Office Knife has a little less fancy scroll work on it than some of them I have seen and I cant seem to find out when it was made, anyone know??

Rusty

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:12 pm
by Cope
Johnnie I know nothing about office knives, as I don't have a single example in my collection BUT I do know enough about Bokers to know when I seen that tree you sketched that you have a Boker. The tree did change at least twice through the years and maybe 3 times but it is the tree symbol. The only book I have with any Boker information to speak of is Romance of Knife Collecting and here is part of what it says:

They adopted the tree brand as their trade-mark to represent an old large chestnut tree that stood in front of the old Remshceid Boker firm in Germany for hundreds of years.

This is not quote but a simplied explanation. I have Bokers with very many different tang markings but they ALL have the tree on the back. Hope this helps.

Brad

Old Bokers

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:00 pm
by buzzardrock
OLDSMOKE said;
I love the ole Keen Kutter, there for a few years you could not pickup anything with the KK design on it with out it costing you an arm and a leg I wonder why things have slacked off on them.
Maybe I need to increase my price. :lol:

I think there is someplace here on AAPK with each Boker tree logo and the dates/years used.
If not, just let us know and I/we will post it here asap.

Take care