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Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:53 am
by 253Barlow
Can anybody help me with information on this marbles 8 inch, such as when it was made or any other information would be great. Thanks. Mike

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:29 am
by 1967redrider
I love vintage Marbles items! ::ds::

That one is sweet for sure. ::drool:: From the 2 line, as opposed to the normal 3 line, ricasso stamp it was made between 1918 and WW II. The stamp is called an "axe stamp" and was derived from their axe head stamps. It was used on 7, 8 & 10" blades. That sheath looks authentic too, it's a shame the snap is missing.

This information is from Arni Dunathan's book, The Encyclopedia of Marbles Knives and Sporting Collectibles, 2005, and is a must have book for Marbles collectors, IMO. I'm included a photo of my current Marbles collection. Finding their sporting equipment makes collecting fun for me, good luck with your collection. ::tu::

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:07 am
by 253Barlow
Nice collection. thanks for info, I have one more ideal it is a 5 inch, I too love marbles!

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:17 pm
by stagman
Yep, thats the timeline on the axe stamp, sheath was discontinued too
at the onset of the war.
Great collection of Marble relics you got goin there redrider
Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:07 pm
by MrBlister
Het redrider or stagman or any other Marbles whale....
These 4 units arrived TX today fresh outta
the Dutchman mine...
I would imagine tang stamps mean sumpn
like all knives we see
Could ya help me with age and value..
They are far from mint and have NO sheaths

#1 8 1/4" with a plastic pommel of some kind (tang pic next to bottom of page)
#2 9" single red wrap with alloy pommel
#3 10 " with 4 rings stag pommel
#4 10 1/4" all stag 6 red rings

thanks in advance

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:46 am
by 1967redrider
Mr. Blister,

Quite the haul! The Woodcraft is pre-1930s with the left facing hook on the "A" and with a Bakelite pommel books around $150-300 mint. Does it have a 1/2" or 3/8" pommel nut? The Ideal with aluminum pommel and right facing "A" hook is post-WWII and well used, and books mint $175-$425 depending on blade length. The leather on stag Ideal looks longer but more blade loss, looks pre-1930s & books $425-$800 mint depending on pommel nut size. The last stag on stag is your money knife, 1911-1930 and could fetch you over $1,000 depending on the current market. These are just estimates, eBay or an interested buyer will determine the real price but I hope this helps. I got this information from Dunathan's book and Price and Zalesky's 15th Edition. Corrections are welcomed!

-John

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:50 am
by 1967redrider
Mr. Blister,

You give overall length but actual blade length is a better identifier. Also, the spacers were an option; more decorative cost more. But all of your knives are authentic Marble's in my opinion. Seeing the knives in person would help too. ::nod::

-John

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:55 am
by MrBlister
Wow John . .
Thank ya sooooooooooooo much..
I JUST KNEW one you guys would
put 10 years of experience and study into
one paragraph for me...
the pommel nut is smallish like 3/8
Guess i got a perty good
Marbles starter kit.. :lol:

Dave

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:58 am
by 1967redrider
Oh yes, you're well on your way! ::tu:: Did any knives come with sheaths? You might be surprised at how much an original Marble leather sheath sells for. Having the knife/sheath set is something collectors love.

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:01 am
by MrBlister
Naaah John . . not a correct sheath in da bunch ..
DID get a Dale Evans (front hanger) sheath.. NOT marbles..
::rotflol::

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:04 am
by 1967redrider
Well now you just need to find the correct knife for that sheath. I have plenty of projects like that myself. ::nod::

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:04 pm
by wazu013
Here's my one and only Marbles. I've been looking for a sheath for years.

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:26 pm
by 1967redrider
Nice knife, wazu! ::tu::

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:16 pm
by stagman
it is nice knife wazu, I really prefer the double hilt on an Ideal like yours
Mcblister, you got some dandies there, one thing I have noticed about Marble's
prices on their knives, they seem to run in high & lower patterns,,,
and so does the collector desire for them,,, 1-5 or 6 months at a crack, wierd yes, but so it goes, over and over again, this all started when the Lauermans bought the outfit and started back up after a 20 year absence, 1998-2008
I been selling Marble's for 10 years in my AAPK store and saw this over and over again
I have also seen this kinda phenomenom on ebay to,
Keep very tight tabs on sales and prices and try to sell on a upwards trend
Redrider gave you some good info on prices, love the way he mentioned all the spacers on
the 1 knife, custom order for a wealthier man back in the day for sure
your last knife is the stag Ideal is the money shot as he told ya
and I have seen Marble's sheaths go for upwards of 30% of the price of the doggone knife, that much added value,
redrider is pretty sharp on whats happening in the Marble's world
Will
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/clearcreekknives

Re: Marbles 8inch ideal

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:49 pm
by 1967redrider
Thanks for the kind words, Will. ::handshake::

-John