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learning to make a knife
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:26 pm
by just in case
I got a question and I hope this is the right place to put it.I got some saw blades from work . They are for cutting brick.They are about 20 inches in diameter. Will this be good for making knives and should it be heat treated ? Thanks ,Jason
Re: Heat treatment
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:06 pm
by knifemaker3
without knowing what type of steel it is it will be difficult to answer your question.
Are they carbide? Carbide tipped? Will they rust? etc.
If you can cut them with a torch, you can cut the blade shape out leaving plenty of room for the steel you will ruin, then grind the blade to shape making sure you get past the blue steel left from cutting while making sure to not get it too hot and to the steel blue from grinding. once you have the blade shaped you can then grind the bevels, polish, etc. to you liking. It is going to be difficult to drill holes for your handles but you can blow hole in with a cutting torch if you are very careful.
There is much more to it than that but that is the quick rundown of how to do it IF you have a workable steel to begin with.
Re: Heat treatment
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:25 am
by just in case
KM3, Thanks for your reply ! I would guess they are high carbon steel. they will rust. they are diamond tipped and used to wet cut brick.I have cut one blank out .Using a saws all with a metal cutting blade.I have done some filing and sanding to get some edge on it. I got some marketa (?) that an old guy got at the paper mill he worked at.I started grinding it down for some handles. Damn am I havin fun ! I need a band saw bad! I got an old sears and roebuck belt grinder and re built it from parts but the two old electric motors I had were junk ...6'' belt and 9''disk .I gotta get some pics up to see what you think.... Jason
Re: Heat treatment
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:08 pm
by knifemaker3
If you were able to cut the blade blank out with a metal cutting band saw it is not hardened and may only be mild steel.
Try this test. Grind a piece of it and watch the sparks coming off it. Then grind something like a lawnmower blade and watch the sparks off it. Hardened steel will have bright flashy burst at the end of the sparks and unhardened will be much less spectacular.
I would say you are using mild steel or some equivalent. Great to practice with but will not hold an edge.
Don't want to discourage you in any way. Just don't want you disappointed when the results may not turn out like you want.
Keep us posted!
Re: Heat treatment
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:10 pm
by just in case
Well , I'll show the knife I been working on.The metal maybe too soft to hold an edge.But like Craig said good to practice on .Dont laugh. I did this with a saws all and a 4'' grinder.I guess you got to start some where, right ? I still got alot of grinding on the micarta.And I m going to finish it anyway ...its a learning experience.

Re: learning to make a knife
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:58 pm
by knifemaker3
That looks good. When you get it sharpened try cutting with it and see how well it holds up. If it was hardenable steel it won't take very much cutting to let you know.
And, if it is mild steel or some equivalent it's still a great learning experience. A lot of the old timers in knifemaking used to tell everyone to start out grinding on mild steel until you learn good techniques as it is much cheaper.
If anyone laughs at you don't worry about it....they are just jealous 'cause they can't even begin to do what you have already done!

Re: learning to make a knife
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:41 pm
by just in case
Craig, Thanks for the words of encouragement and advice! I will keep you posted. Jason

Re: learning to make a knife
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:05 am
by just in case
Allright, I jb welded this thing togather , put the pins in and let it dry. Oh ,yea, I had a bit of aluminum laying around so I cut and pinned some bolisters on her. After drying I cut the pins and peened them .Then I did some more grinding. Still need some work on the fit and finish under th bolster. and some fine sanding here and there. I have an edge on it and have been whittling on a peice of hickory. Seems to hold an edge ok. But if I chop at it there are little dints in the edge.

How do I shine this micarta back up ? Thanks Jason
Re: learning to make a knife
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:34 pm
by knifemaker3
fine grits of sandpaper and lots of elbow grease for shining the micarta. I usually take it down to @ 600 grit and then buff on a buffing wheel with fabulustre buffing compound or white rouge.
Re: learning to make a knife
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:54 pm
by orvet
A tip on sanding the micarta: your micarta appears to be linen micarta, which is resin-impregnated linen. Best to wear a respirator when sanding it.
Re: learning to make a knife
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:43 am
by just in case
Craig, Thanks for that info. Dale ,Thanks for lookin out for me. Yes , the half mask respirator is a must. Jason
