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Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:52 am
by JEARL
I am interested in starting a collection of the Hawbaker Specials. Wondering if anyone could share some pics. and some info. Doesn't matter what brand. Thanks Jeff
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:16 am
by trail
I found this ad for a modern day Hawbaker Special from Red Hill Cutlery and Canal Street. Red Hill might still have some. It looks like it would make a good addition to a Hawbaker Special collection.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:07 am
by tjmurphy
Here's the one that I have, Canal Street in Ram's Horn, exclusive to Red Hill Cutlery.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:01 am
by jerryd6818
I like them and someday will have more but for right now, this Robeson ShurEdge is my only Hawbaker.
T.J., I kinda got the envies over that Canal Street of yours. I'm liken those Ram's Horn handles.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:05 am
by tjmurphy
Ram's Horn is a really nice handle material. Glad I got the 2010 AAPK LE in Ram's Horn as well as stag.

Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:44 am
by rarreola
Beautiful Ram's Horn scales tjmurphy, congrats.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:51 am
by orvet
Here is a modern Primble Hawbaker I picked up about 2007.
Nice knife, good F&F and nice walk & talk.
I EDCed it for about a week and quit carrying it when I couldn't get it to hold an edge.

Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:06 pm
by tjmurphy
Dale and Jerry, are your knives marked as "Hawbaker Specials"? If not I think that they are referred to as "Improved Muskrats". The use of the Hawbaker name on the knife is authorized by the family and the 2009 that I have was the first authorization in, I think, 10-years. See here:
http://www.redhillcutlery.com/index.php?cPath=22_261 Same pattern and blade configuration but unless authorized as such it is an Improved Muskrat.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:13 pm
by Paladin
In the spirit of show and tell, here is mine by Eye Brand.

Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:53 pm
by jerryd6818
Then it's an "Improved Muskrat"
I'm still gonna call it a Hawbaker Muskrat and they can just sue me.
Edit: Okay, I've changed my mind. I've decided to call it a "Hawbaker Style Muskrat". That should satisfy all the legal crap.
This is a Schrade "Improved Muskrat" (says it on the blade if you get it in the right light).
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:56 pm
by tjmurphy
YOU GO GIRL. Ooooooooooooops!! I mear YOU GO DALE!!
DAMMIT!! I DID IT AGAIN. LET'S TRY IT ONE MORE TIME.
YOU GO GIRL Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I MEAN
JERRY
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:05 pm
by biglmbass
Is the Canal Street a single spring knife?
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:15 pm
by jerryd6818
Goin'. Goin'. Gone.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:23 pm
by tjmurphy
The Canal Street Hawbaker Special is single spring.

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Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:28 pm
by tjmurphy
jerryd6818 wrote:Goin'. Goin'. Gone.
Where ya goin Jerry???
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:34 pm
by tjmurphy
JEARL wrote:I am interested in starting a collection of the Hawbaker Specials. Wondering if anyone could share some pics. and some info. Doesn't matter what brand. Thanks Jeff
I guess that my main point was that there are "Hawbaker Specials" and there are Hawbaker Patterns which are not Hawbaker Specials. Make sense??
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:54 pm
by JEARL
I am guessing that if it is marked hawbaker special it is, if not it is a improved muskrat? Even if it has the hawbaker blade?
Jeff
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:30 pm
by tjmurphy
The "improved" tag that I hung on it may not be a totally accurate description, maybe "Hawbaker patttern" is better. But as far as I know, all Hawbaker Specials, with the exception of the very first one, are marked as such and were authorized by the Hawbaker family. I may be speaking completely out of my bounderies of expertise, but as I recall, that's what all the literature says. This is some pretty interesting reading. Scroll down to page 319 and there is a topic about the "Hawbaker Specials" which may make it more clear.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LL_7wQ ... &q&f=false
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:40 pm
by Dave O
tj, how come you have no calluses on those hands?? Lets see some on the tips of your fingers! Is that Martin too light to make a callus?
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:51 pm
by biglmbass
tjmurphy wrote:The Canal Street Hawbaker Special is single spring.
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Thanks. While you've got it close, how thick is it?
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:15 pm
by tjmurphy
biglmbass wrote:tjmurphy wrote:The Canal Street Hawbaker Special is single spring.
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Thanks. While you've got it close, how thick is it?
5/32 across the back
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:24 pm
by tjmurphy
quote="Dave O"]tj, how come you have no calluses on those hands?? Lets see some on the tips of your fingers! Is that Martin too light to make a callus?[/quote]
Got nothing serious on the finger-tips. The HD-28 is a HOSS but it plays easy. I won't keep a guitar that hurts my fingers/hands or breaks strings. I play a pretty heavy rythem but haven't broken a string in 10-years. The last strings I broke were during the same song, nearly at the same time. Broke the G and the B. It was a brand new set of Elixer strings. Needless to say it was the first and last set of those strings I ever used. I currently use Martin SP-4200's, medium phosphorus bronze.
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Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:03 pm
by Billswfl
This is a Case 1982 Improved Muskrat it was supposed to be a Hawbaker Special but some were rejected because of the quality of the bone. The front scales look good but the rear has a lot of white showing.
Bill
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:20 pm
by tjmurphy
Yeppers, that's what the cited article says. That's a good one to have, should be pretty rare.

Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:24 pm
by Billswfl
TJ there are probably fewer of these then the Hawbakers.
Bill