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Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:14 am
by Miller Bro's
I like collecting old knife related items as well as the knives that we are all familiar with. Back in the day some knife companies manufactured other items in their factory, not just pocket knives. Finding these items is not easy, one reason is probably because early pocket knife collectors were mainly only interested in just finding the knives not much else was being sought at that time.

I would like to see in this thread any items you may have that has a knife companies name on it, such as a pair of scissors, gun, tool, etc. Also any items or tools that were used by old knife factories.

I will start out with a mystery item, I have now identified it, but I will let you try and guess what it is. It was made in the John Russell factory in Turners Falls Mass. in the 1920`s I believe.

Re: Not Necessaraly A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:32 am
by Owd Wullie
Looks like a glass cutter of some type to me.

Re: Not Necessaraly A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:02 am
by FRJ
I'm going to guess it's for cutting sheet metal.

Re: Not Necessaraly A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:25 am
by chautauqua
ceramic tile cutter

Re: Not Necessaraly A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:39 am
by sextonknifeworks
Is it a feeler gauge?

Re: Not Necessaraly A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:53 am
by philco
::hmm::

::hmm::

::hmm::

::idea::

Paperweight?

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:49 am
by tjmurphy
Sure look like glass cutter blades and since some are more recessed than others, I'd say for different thicknesses of glass.

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:30 pm
by orvet
There are definitely different depths to the wheels (which look like glass cutters).
The hole in the center is hexagonal which likely means it could go on a shaft, but they do not want it to spin on the shaft. By turning the shaft on which Dimitri’s mystery item is mounted 60 degrees at a time, it would move the cuter from one cutter to the next, and could produce a progressively deeper scoring in thick glass.
I have cut a little glass and I know you can’t cut too deep at one time.

I suspect this is a cutter that mounts somehow, perhaps on a shaft, to cut heavy glass, maybe in sheets or glass that is being turned somehow in the manufacturing process.
That's my best guess. ::shrug::

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:56 pm
by knife7knut
Definitely for scoring glass.I bought a tool for my wife(who does stained glass work)that was used for cutting large diameter circles in glass.It had an adjustable beam to set the radius and a device similar to the illustrated one mounted on the outboard edge of the beam.This one allowed you to change wheels without disturbing the setting if one became dulled.I'll have to dig it out and post a picture.

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:12 pm
by Joe Dirt
The tool is clearly index-able with "cutters" (inserts) of progressive depth. It is similar to glass cutting tools, but I haven't seen many glass knives.

Was it "drawn" against bone or second cut stag to jig the grip?

.... Joe

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:59 pm
by Miller Bro's
:D It is a Glass Cutter! So all you guys that guessed it, pat yourselves on the back :lol:

Here is the 1889 Alex Rowland patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=ulRGAA ... &q&f=false

http://www.google.com/patents?id=ulRGAA ... 284&edge=0


http://www.google.com/patents?id=ulRGAA ... 266&edge=0

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:42 pm
by ObsidianEdge
Made by Will & Finck, and most likely the only thing I'll ever own made by that company given how much the knives go for. I guess I could try for one of those lime squeezers that show up occasionally on an online auction site.

Image

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 pm
by Miller Bro's
Mike that is Image Thanks for showing it ::tu::

Here are some other cutlery related items that belong in this thread ::nod::

Pocket knife handle Dies and cutlery price pins............

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:06 pm
by paulsvintage
::tu:: great stuff guys !

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:10 pm
by FRJ
ObsidianEdge wrote:Made by Will & Finck, and most likely the only thing I'll ever own made by that company given how much the knives go for. I guess I could try for one of those lime squeezers that show up occasionally on an online auction site.

Image

ObsidianEdge, would that be for pulling leather?

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:10 pm
by Miller Bro's
Very nice Paul ::tu:: ::tu::

I know there are more of you out there that have this stuff ::nod:: Let`s see it!! :D

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:31 am
by orvet
I have posted these elsewhere but it was 2 or 3 years ago.
These are things from the Camillus 100th Anniversary, courtesy of Dennis Ellingsen of the OKCA.
Camillus Medallion  a.jpg
Camillus Medallion b.jpg
Camillus 100 Anniv sticker.jpg
Camillus 100 Anniv matches.jpg

This is a repair bag used at the Camillus factory. Courtesy of Tom Williams (CAMCO).
The repair could be kept in the bag/envelop and shipped back to the customer in the same bag.
The bag is attached to the envelop.
Camillus repair envelop a.jpg
Camillus Repair envelop b.jpg
Camillus repair envelop c.jpg

Either Dennis of Tom gave this patch.
Sorry, I don’t remember which one gave it to me.
Camillus patch.jpg

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:46 am
by paulsvintage
::tu:: Wow Dale love that kind of stuff

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:18 pm
by Miller Bro's
Nice stuff Dale ::tu::

I really like that cloth bag ::nod::

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:41 am
by TripleF
Vintage Schrade patch:

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:18 pm
by galvanic1882
I have a couple of items that are a bit odd and will start with this "THING" marked The Cronk & Carrier Mfg Co, Hardware specialties, Elmira NY and on the side of that is marked Pat'd with a date and then LITTLE GIANT. Can anyone guess what it is??

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:10 pm
by galvanic1882
Maybe I got you all stumped on this one?? I will post another but would love to hear some guesses on the Cronk item.

Here is a Canastota box with a nut pick, the handle is bone.

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:15 pm
by galvanic1882
OK no one even tried to guess what the Cronk & Carrier item was!! ::shrug::

It is a check or signature protector made to prevent people from forging checks or signatures!!

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:37 am
by Miller Bro's
Mike,

Never would have guessed that. How exactly does it work?

Here is an old 1903 ad from the company..............

Re: Not Necessarily A Knife

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:44 am
by cattaraugus57
All Great stuff guys, Paulsvintage,Love that Catt ribbon,I was trying to win that one myself..! :wink: ::nod::
And Millerbros...man you drive me nuts with those Catt Buttons!!!!! ::drool:: ::drool:: ::tu:: ::facepalm::