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Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:14 am
by pinnah
Was wondering if people could direct my search for a (preferably older) folding hunter made with non-stainless carbon or chrome-vanadium steel?

Essentially, I want to replace my Buck 110 with something made with carbon steel. I'm looking for something about the same size as the 110. Would prefer the classic brass/wood style handle, but would consider jigged handles too. Really insist on a locking blade.

I know that Schrade/Old Timer made locking hunter knives but have no idea what type of blades they used.

I know Case made CV bladed hunters but most of what I've seen are 2 bladed slip joints.

Any ideas?

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:24 am
by sextonknifeworks
Schrade made the Old Timer 6OT or the LB7. Very similar to the 110. Make sure you get the pre 2004 USA made model.

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:28 am
by Owd Wullie
You looking for a knife similar in shape and function to the 110?

Schrade made a 7OT that is damn close to the 110 in size. The steel in them is some hard stuff.
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The 7OT pictured above is available if you're interested.

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:12 am
by pinnah
Just verifying, are the three Schrades mentioned carbon steel, not stainless?

For example, this one looks to be stainless judging from the photos, no?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHRADE-Old-Timer-6 ... 6616201217

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:28 am
by coffeecup
Many of the Schrade (original Schrade, not the current incarnation of Schrade) 7OTs were non-stainless. You can avoid those marked "Schrade +" and screen out a lot of the stainless knives. Pesonally, I just watch ebay for 7OTs with rust on the blade.

Jim

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:48 pm
by HiPower

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here are 2 great easterns that have excellent 1095 carbon steel. the spiral cut red buffalo did 2 texas whitetail deer & would still scrape arm hair. the primitive bone is still unbloodied, both can be carried in the pocket but i prefer a horizontal belt sheath. the blade is about 3.5 in. long & plenty strong for most game you might encounter. for feral hogs i prefer 4 or 4.5 in. blades.---HiPower

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:29 pm
by Elvis
I've got a Kabar 1189 that sounds like what you're describing. See if they are what you had in mind.

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:47 pm
by Owd Wullie
pinnah wrote:Just verifying, are the three Schrades mentioned carbon steel, not stainless?

For example, this one looks to be stainless judging from the photos, no?

http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHRADE-Old-Timer-6 ... 6616201217
I believe you are correct. Schrades ain't my specialty but I remember something about the + sign signifying something. LOL

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:45 am
by HiPower
the marking Schrade + means stainless.--HiPower

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:48 am
by pinnah
Wow. You guys are great!

The suggestion of the 60T and 70T led me to discover the 50T, which will slot in nicely between my 110 (no sense chucking it yet) and my pocket knives. Thrilled to learn more about Schrade, as an Ulster 4 blade camper is one of my all time favorite pocket knives and so there's some continuity of some sort there.

Thanks for the tip on the '+' symbol. That helps immensely.

Also, thanks for the tip on the Kabar folder. That goes on the watch list when the time comes to replace the 110.

Huge thanks for the suggestion of the new Eastern knives. Those are wonderful looking and I'm glad to know somebody in the north east is making knives like that.

Last question (as if)... Was the Buck folding hunter ever made in carbon steel? Or is that a question better suited for the Buck sub-forum?

Oh... Hopefully a 50T is on the way soon. Can't wait.

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:34 am
by Owd Wullie
TO the best of my knowledge the Buck 110 has never been made with carbon steel.

I've been carrying the same one pictured above since 1972. It went to Nam and came back. Been through three pouches but the knife just keeps on tickin'.

W

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:34 am
by zed6309
Another option on a locking blade with a carbon blade is opinel, my largest is the #8 but there is larger , these are great slicing knives so great for filliting and cutting meat, also very popular with bushcraft folk. a little different i know but got a great long history and great bang for the bucks,

Did case ever do the hammerhead in carbon or CV blade ?

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:25 am
by philco
Paul I've never seen a Hammerhead in carbon or CV steel.


::hmm:: Of course I've never seen Sasquach either but he showed up in the chat room recently, so draw your own conclusions. :mrgreen:

Phil

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:04 am
by zed6309
philco wrote:Paul I've never seen a Hammerhead in carbon or CV steel.


::hmm:: Of course I've never seen Sasquach either but he showed up in the chat room recently, so draw your own conclusions. :mrgreen:

Phil
:lol: he gets everywhere doesnt he :D yeah im not sure about a hammerhead in carbon or CV ? probably noe one :?

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:41 am
by pinnah
Owd Wullie wrote:TO the best of my knowledge the Buck 110 has never been made with carbon steel.

I've been carrying the same one pictured above since 1972. It went to Nam and came back. Been through three pouches but the knife just keeps on tickin'.
W, just found the 110 timeline in the Buck forum and it appears that it's always been some form stainless. I got mine in '78 as a kid. Ordered it from the Herter's Catalog. You're right about the general durability and thinking about that freed me up to think about the smaller 50T. Hopefully the smaller 50T will get more everyday use.

BTW, thanks for your service.

zed6309, thumbs up on the Opinel #8. I picked up one used several years ago and credit that knife for getting me back in the habit of EDC use. They're so dang light!!!! Just disappears in the pocket. The handle on my was so beat that I sanded it down to clean wood and applied several coats of Tung oil. Great feel now. Much better than before. Anyway, the Opinel is in my 2 knife EDC rotation and for 90% of the time, the simple lock on the Opinel is enough but 10% and especially on weekends when I'm working on the yard or in the barn I have to pay too much attention on it. Same for the slip joint Ulster camper knife (which I love dearly). I really want the security of the Buck 110 with a carbon steel blade, classic looks and, if possible, a bit smaller profile. The Schrade 50T should be on the way soon and we'll see. Hopefully it's my Saturday knife (and the Opinel stays my Sunday go-to-meeting knife).

I really can't thank you guys enough. The suggestions have been super helpful!

Re: Non-Stainless Folding Hunters?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:25 pm
by zed6309
pinnah wrote:
Owd Wullie wrote:TO the best of my knowledge the Buck 110 has never been made with carbon steel.

I've been carrying the same one pictured above since 1972. It went to Nam and came back. Been through three pouches but the knife just keeps on tickin'.
W, just found the 110 timeline in the Buck forum and it appears that it's always been some form stainless. I got mine in '78 as a kid. Ordered it from the Herter's Catalog. You're right about the general durability and thinking about that freed me up to think about the smaller 50T. Hopefully the smaller 50T will get more everyday use.

BTW, thanks for your service.

zed6309, thumbs up on the Opinel #8. I picked up one used several years ago and credit that knife for getting me back in the habit of EDC use. They're so dang light!!!! Just disappears in the pocket. The handle on my was so beat that I sanded it down to clean wood and applied several coats of Tung oil. Great feel now. Much better than before. Anyway, the Opinel is in my 2 knife EDC rotation and for 90% of the time, the simple lock on the Opinel is enough but 10% and especially on weekends when I'm working on the yard or in the barn I have to pay too much attention on it. Same for the slip joint Ulster camper knife (which I love dearly). I really want the security of the Buck 110 with a carbon steel blade, classic looks and, if possible, a bit smaller profile. The Schrade 50T should be on the way soon and we'll see. Hopefully it's my Saturday knife (and the Opinel stays my Sunday go-to-meeting knife).

I really can't thank you guys enough. The suggestions have been super helpful!
glad you got something sorted dave and the schrade sounds perfect, ive become a huge fan of opinel since a good friend in the uk sent me one he had going spare, it was a #8 and a favourite in the garden, im getting a #8 in ss for kitchen work, ive now goot 7 opinels and love them all, there easy to sharpen and hold a edge pretty well, as you say there light and disapear in your pocket, i love the virobloc locking sleeve but on my edc i have to go for there #5 with no lock and under 3 inches :( blooming uk laws, although the way these riots are going a machete might be better :? well glad your sorted mate, take care ::tu::