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Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:59 pm
by knifegirl888
Hello, Guys.

I can't find the knife book that PAknives wrote at the present. (I am not sure where Bret might have stashed it :lol: )

The patent on it reads Nov. 5th, 1907. The stamp just says Union. I am wondering... Is this a Tidioute made knife, or would it have been made in Olean?

Thanks, Kathy

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:39 am
by chautauqua
in my experience if it is not stamped tidioute than it was made in olean

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:23 pm
by PA Knives
chautauqua is absolutely right, if it isn't stamped TIDIOUTE then it isn't. The Union emblem (North America) (look at my avatar) was used in both era's but it would say TIDIOUTE if it was.

NICE KNIFE I mean it, REALLY NICE KNIFE

David

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:14 pm
by knifegirl888
My thanks to the both of you!

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:14 pm
by rigwelder
Very Nice knife,,
with a rare stamp too boot! ::tu::

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:22 pm
by knifegirl888
Bret & I are sooo happy to have it. The tip of the blade is a little messed up, but it still has great snap. Its hard to not play with it when its sitting on my desk...

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:47 pm
by gringo
rare stamp? forget that...it has a three tine fork!!!!! ::tu::

can we see a pic of the inside liners? please?

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:29 pm
by knifegirl888
Yep, sure can. Here ya go..

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:43 pm
by gringo
thanks....

i think the only way i can afford one of those knives is to make it... ::facepalm::

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:46 pm
by Jacknifeben
KG. Here are some pictures of my UNION CUTLERY hobo. I think your tang stamp makes your pearl older than mine but has the same PAT. date. Mine is is tang stamped OLEAN N.Y. U.S.A.

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:27 pm
by Bret888
Delbert, that knife looks like it never got used! Maybe you ought to eat supper with it tonight?

It sounds like Kathy's pearl must have been an early Olean knife, before they got new stamps done? I wonder what sort of person would have bought the pearl/nickel silver version? There was a lot of oil money in the region at that time. I doubt many Hobo's could buy either one of these.....

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:31 pm
by Bret888
gringo wrote:thanks....

i think the only way i can afford one of those knives is to make it... ::facepalm::
I bet old Brown won't be after you for royalties at least!

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:21 pm
by knifegirl888
I never even thought about the liner being nickle silver before.

P.S.

I know Bret called it "my knife", but it is "ours"! ::nod::

Re: Union slot/hobo Tidioute or Olean?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:09 am
by knifegirl888
Hello, everyone.

I got some more great information from Paul Tsujimoto at Ka-bar (My thanks to him!). He told me that this knife is a Union Cutlery 7291 K & F. The stamp on the knife is called a “North American Union” stamp and was first used after the move to Olean, NY. Approximate date using this stamp is 1915-1925. He also told me that the stamp & the mother of pearl does make it a rarer piece, even if the tip of the blade was probably reshaped after the tip was broken.

Just wanted to share the info.

Kathy :)