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Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:41 am
by vikingdog
Does anyone have any Great Eastern knives with mammoth ivory scales? The only ones I've seen were in a post Monk put up: http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 56&t=22522

Post a photo if you can.

I'd like to see the primitive bone and mammoth ivory side by side in person sometime.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:47 am
by big monk
::tu::

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:59 am
by Gunstock Jack
This is a 23 I had rehandled in mammoth ivory taken off an Alaskan beach years ago.
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This is out of the same tusk, but it was softer so I had it stabilized; it has a spalted look. Both were expertly executed by Muskrat Man.
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The 73 jack is nice and flat and rides well in a pocket, but is plenty large enough for serious work. ::nod::

I repaired the minor crack in the ivory you see in the picture of the 23. I cleaned out the black, filled with super glue, and sanded/buffed. You can't even see the repair!
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The blade and bolster are cloudy with rust preventative.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:21 am
by Gunstock Jack
These are all handled from the same tusk used on the GEC's:
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Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:42 am
by vikingdog
Thank you Monk and Gunstock. I don't know much about mammoth ivory. It looks like it can come in a wide variety of colors and markings.

Can you tell me how it is stabilized when it's not ready to use? Some kind of resin?

I'll tell you Gunstock, I doubt that I'll ever see a nicer line up of knives than your photo of the primitive bone on the other thread.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:06 pm
by Gunstock Jack
Thanks for your comments, Mike. This is the piece of mammoth tusk I have been working with. As you can see, this tusk is in a state of decay; well, it is 10 to 13 thousand years old so that is to be expected. My friend "stabilized" this piece with some epoxy resin; not a good idea as it prevents it from drying too quickly but is very difficult to remove. I wish he'd used parafin. Anyway, you can see the layers of ivory delaminating in the tusk much like wood might (if it were ivory). :roll: So the stuff needs to be sort of "unraveled" as you cut chunks away to find solid material. It can be tough to find enough to work with due to the delamination.

The color varies because the ivory will pick up any colors of the available minerals, so it just depends where it is found. This piece was hanging out of a eroded beach in Alaska by some kids looking for firewood.

I had some of it stabilized by K&G Supply (I think) in AZ; they charge by the pound. I would recommend your have your pieces cut to apprx. size and shape before stabilizing.

The knife in the photos was made by Gene Martin of Provision Forge (made unfinished blade) and myself (haft and finish). The blade is 4 1/2 inches.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:14 pm
by Draac
All the knives in this thread posted are GREAT looking knives !!

Draac

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:04 pm
by vikingdog
Draac wrote:All the knives in this thread posted are GREAT looking knives !!

Draac
That's a fact!

Gunstock, thank you for taking the time to explain the tusk process and post the photos. ::tu:: That's fascinating to me, I had no idea.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:49 pm
by big monk
Me Too !!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: _____what ,Mike said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This site,is amazing !!!! ( you too,Barry :) )

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:02 pm
by Mike S.
That's cool stuff right there. Wouldn't that be something to stumble upon. (Oh, look what I found...It's a Mammoth tusk) ::ds::

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:59 pm
by bonehead
Nice photos and explaination. Thanks for sharing, very interestsing ::nod::

Bone

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:18 pm
by vikingdog
I wonder what that ivory is like to work with? It looks punky. I wonder if it's soft and pliable when you work with it and later it's hardened somehow, or if it's like working with bone? The end result sure is impressive.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:14 pm
by Gunstock Jack
Mike, it is hard and smells like rotten teeth being drilled. My wife makes me work it outside, as the smell lingers for days, even in my shop. When working with it, you don't want to get it hot, or it can crack. Some of the more decayed material can be soft and chalky; unsuitable to use as it is, but can be stabilized. Any of it will crack when pinning if you're not careful. It isn't the easiest or most forgiving material to work with, but is worth the added effort. ::nod::

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:04 am
by vikingdog
I'm glad I started this topic, I've learned a lot. It's not like what I'd imagined at all.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:47 am
by On Edge
Great thread, Mike …

GJ, thank you for sharing your knowledge and photos - I am also fascinated by this, and am always amazed at the wealth of experience and information to be found in this community …

AAPK rocks. ::nod::

~ Edge

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:31 pm
by vikingdog
Edge, wouldn't it be cool to go to a knife meet/knife workshop with these guys and see this stuff in person? The mammoth ivory is way cool. :D

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:10 pm
by GeorgeCAtl
I posted this one before...........but not in this thread ::ds::

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Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:51 pm
by vikingdog
George that is a beautiful knife. I have the same knife but with smooth white bone scales for my EDC and it's my favorite knife. Here is my one and only (so far) mammoth ivory GEC.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:47 pm
by GeorgeCAtl
Beautiful Barlow Mike ::tu::
Thats my only Mammoth Ivory as well.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:56 pm
by vikingdog
Thank you George. I really like the GEC mammoth ivory and primitive bone.

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:07 pm
by On Edge
vikingdog wrote:Edge, wouldn't it be cool to go to a knife meet/knife workshop with these guys and see this stuff in person? The mammoth ivory is way cool. :D
Yeah Buddy! I would love that!

::tu::

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:19 pm
by theblindog

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:00 pm
by big monk


Thanks Fallah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::tu::

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:11 pm
by theblindog
my pleasure Monk, Congrats!! ::ds::
don't forget to post pics when they arrive ::tu::

Re: Mammoth Ivory?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:27 pm
by big monk
theblindog wrote:my pleasure Monk, Congrats!! ::ds::
don't forget to post pics when they arrive ::tu::
Shoot Fire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll post em' before they arrive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Greg,takes good photos !!!!!!!!! then I'll post my ""humble pics"" when they do arrive ::tu:: ::woot:: ::woot:: _________I got one of those ""Weaver Jacks""" ::uc::