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What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:25 pm
by gino
What is the correct name for this handle material???
Noxin -Germay 1920 -1940
Kutmaster -USA 1930 -1940
Thanks for lookin!
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:58 pm
by gino
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Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:13 pm
by ole_muddy
Looks like a couple of variations of butter 'n molasses celluloid to me. Eric
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:55 pm
by gino
Thanks Eric
I dont know the proper name hopefully someone does.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:01 am
by coffeecup
Gino, I've got one similar to the Noxin you show; I always thought the handle was horn (as in cow horn).
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:18 am
by gino
Coffee, any pics of the knife??
that sounds like a name that fits.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:35 am
by coffeecup
maybe, if I can remember how to do this . . . .

Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:48 am
by knifegirl888
I have three that have similar looking handles. I don't have pics of any of them at the moment. I have a Klaas, a Wusthof, and a Krusius that are all made in Soligen. They are very pretty handles, but I believe the material to be celluloid.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:56 pm
by Paladin
I have heard that type cel referred to as 'Irish Soap'.

Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:52 pm
by gino
Coffee - that bottom knifes handle looks the exact same.
Paladin - That sounds good I like that name. I never heard of it before but then again I never knew what it was called. LOL!!
Knife girl - - I own many cell knives and this just has a different look and feel than the rest thats why I thought there had to be a specific name for this type.
Thanks for all your time and interest everyone.

Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:18 pm
by tjmurphy
Gino - I am kinda in the same boat as you. I have an old? Boker USA with odd handles that do not appear to be celluloid. They remind me of horn but I don't know about the coloration. See pic.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:47 pm
by knifegirl888
It is possible that yours is real horn. I just have three that I think are simulated. Having a knife in your hand is much better than seeing it on a computer screen.

Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:52 pm
by tjmurphy
Thanks KG888 - It doesn't look like nor feel like cell, no shrinkage nor any cracking. Maybe it is horn.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:10 pm
by Paladin
tjmurphy wrote:Thanks KG888 - It doesn't look like nor feel like cell, no shrinkage nor any cracking. Maybe it is horn.
TJ,
Check it with a loupe. If it is real horn it will have pores, or veins, for blood circulation.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:35 pm
by tjmurphy
Hey Ray - Thanks. I looked at it through an 8X and saw no pores, but then, I looked at one that I know is ram's horn and saw no pores either, just some striations. Maybe those are pores cut on the longitudinal?
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:53 pm
by gino
Mine have the small striatons also. Im stumped??? Doesnt have the feel of cell tho thats for sure.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:05 pm
by Ramrod
Tj,
I looked at some of mine with a 20x magnifier and still had a hard time seein them. My eyes are NOT what they used to be however.
Mark
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:21 pm
by gino
The top knife I posted is Def not cell but the bottom one I think is. I still need help with the top one pictured. What the heck is it. Horn of some kind?
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:55 pm
by gino
any other ideas?
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:16 pm
by coffeecup
Gino, I took another look at mine at 25x magnification. Whatever it is, I don't think it is horn. I'm inclined to think it is celluloid; it has the same pattern as "French ivory." I tried the hot water test for cell and got nothing (but as many times as my nose has been broken, I don't have much of a sense of smell left).
No shrinkage, no smell . . . doesn't feel like celluloid . . . and it isn't bakelite.
There's always the acid--well,
acetone--test: acetone will rapidly dissolve celluloid. I guess you could try a drop on the tip of a pin in an inconspicuous place. If it dissolves in 10 seconds or so, it is celluloid. I'm taking the easy way out and putting my knife in with the others I'll sell, the next guy who owns it can figure it out!

Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:43 pm
by gino
havent done the tests yet. I am gonna wait to see if anyone knows for sure what they are.

Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:11 am
by gino
Still hoping for an answer
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:03 pm
by Iron Hoarder
I've got a German made knife with that exact same black and white striated scale material. No shrinkage and in excellent condition. I can't figure out what it is either but I suspect some kind of high density plastic rather than celluloid.
Re: What is the correct name of this handle material???
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:44 pm
by Miller Bro's
Gino,
Could I see a picture of the knife with the blades open.
And a close up of all tang stamps.