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Best files for filework on LB7/Buck 110?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:04 am
by snorkel
Been trying my hand at file work and the hobby files I got didn't even last through 1 LB7.

Just wondering what the pros are using for filing the hardened spines of the big lockbacks like the LB7?

I did pick up some cheap diamond files from Amazon and those worked better, but still did not last. Diamond dust was just glued on
and after awhile I could not make marking cuts.

Thanks,

Snorkel

Re: Best files for filework on LB7/Buck 110?

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:52 pm
by orvet
I have tried some of the cheap imported files. You might as well light a match to your money, IMHO. If the file causes you to make a mistake (and they will if they don’t cut right), it has cost you money instead of made you money.

For cheaper files I used to buy Nicholson files. They are US made and are very good quality, especially for softer steel. I usually paid about $5 to $7 locally for a 4" 3-Square Nicholson.

The best files I have found are the Swiss made Grobet.
Of the Grobet I like the Valtitan line for durability. They are supposed to be 72 on the Rockwell C scale. They also dump the filings from the teeth better as they are treated to release the filings easier. Instead of having to card my file after every 2 or 3 cuts, I can tap it on my bench and that gets rid of most of the filings.

They also come in different sizes, 00 -extra coarse, 0 -coarse, 2 - medium, 4 –fine.
Expect to pay $12 or $13 for an 18 cm (7”) needle file.

The larger Grobet Valtitan files are more expensive. A six inch 3 Square is about $24 in medium. The same file in a standard Grobet (non-Valtitan) is about $19. While a six inch Nicholson 3 Square that I can buy locally is about $7.

I find the Grobet Valtitan files are definitely worth the extra money. I used to buy 3 or 4 Nicholson files at a time and wear them out after about 2-3 file work jobs each. I have not worn out a Grobet Valtitan yet. I am not sure how long they will last. The ones I have now have done about 12 file work jobs and are sharper than the Nicholsons are when they were new.

The Grobet Valtitans are faster to use as they cut better & faster. I make fewer mistakes as they tend to cut and not slide on the work, and I spend less time cleaning the file. Since they are available in fine cuts, it takes less time to sand the file marks out the filework. In fact, if I finish with the fine cut file, I don’t have any file marks to sand out of the filework. I can just buff the filework and be finished with the piece. Since they are so much faster I spend about ¼ the time I used to spend doing filework and my old arthritic hands really appreciate that!

I buy my Grobet files at Otto Frei, a supply house for jewelers.
http://www.ottofrei.com/store/home.php?cat=265

The Grobet Valtitan files are definitely more expensive, but for my money they are well worth it!

Dale

Re: Best files for filework on LB7/Buck 110?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:52 pm
by snorkel
thanks for the link Dale, That site is pretty nice, good prices also.
I ordered two medium ones, one round and 1 3 square(triangle) to get started with.

I didn't think coarse ones would be needed?

I was able to get one vine pattern done with the same two types of diamond files before the coating came off :-(

Re: Best files for filework on LB7/Buck 110?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:23 pm
by orvet
The medium should cut it just fine.

Glad it helped,
Dale