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Thanks to Mr. Bill Price. His generosity and future knife collecting "vision" have allowed these three very special and rare examples to pass down. These truly rare examples of the knifemakers art come from his collection into my care. I am a fortunate "Yank" (ey Roger??) Although you may have seen these singularily for auction/sale, there were (are?), according to best sources, perhaps only 70 total knives of this pattern and scale material to survive and make it through the plant fire at Case in 1995. These three are even more a rareity due to the following facts: One of each blade style is represented, ie: 1)No-Etch blade, 2)Single Bull-Elephant Etched Blade, 3)Dual Bull-Elephant etched blade.
Furthermore, two of these have long-tail C bolster serial numbers (No-Etch carries #001,,,Dual-Bull carries #010), of which the accompanying coa seen states less than 50 total of these #'ed specimens were manufactured ( I wonder how FEW survived the fire??) They are all Mint (as "pristine mint" has lost all value and meaning in knifing due to a dimented child among the honest) some, extremely small fingernail-needed-to-realize ridging at the fit line of the monikered "Crushed Blue Velvet" handle celluloid material. Some minor blade rubs, as common this pattern. The two with etches are dark, even and dominantly embellished (no fading side-to-side), and the gravy on the icing?,,,,All three recall Bradford tins are mint, with unbroken inserts.
Its difficult not to be a scant braggadocious in recognition of the rareity and condition of these three considering their plight.
Texas-Roger, I hope you don't take me to task , however, I am going to go out on a limb and claim to be the only person to have the three variances of CBV E-Toes together in a collection. I can think of perhaps one "buzzard" who may be a holder of same. I hereby challenge anyone to then show.
Please look at my other post for more rareities.
I feel honored to have been chosen for their care and legacy to the "next" knife addicts to take our places and accept these as part of that history when time comes.
Take care all-Glenn

According to everything I have and read and a discussion with Jim Parker; only the Gunboat, 88 Congress, 254 Trapper, and Saddlehorn were made by Case. Thus these probably didn't have much trouble surviving the fire.

http://www.caseclassicsclub.com/history.htm

Having said that, this is a fine set of toenails that must bear a premium due to your work in keeping them together. Congratulations.

Howdy Boys,

What a truly "Rare" display of all three 1995 - Case Classic - 72050 Crushed Blue Velvet Sunfish/Elephant Toe patterns you have here Glenn, not to mention the fact of having them with three of the most sot after Bradford recall tins is by far the most complete package a collector could ever run across in a three knife set that many that collect this pattern are after with out any doubt in my mind!

Mike, Glenn is right about the fact of these knives being rare survivors of a factory fire as were all 1995 year Tang Stamped 2050 patterns, now just where & which factory it took place in may be in copy written material that I am not allowed to use or pass on unless you were a member of the "Case Classics Club" ....True historical knife records of the knives produced in the Case Classic program is one of the many benefits a collector could access if he or she were to join up as a member, if you or any other knifer on this site is a serious collector of the knives produced in the Case Classic program I would have to tell you that this Club is a must have for all!

Glenn, again I must tell you --> very nice & "Rare" three knife set of Sunfish/Elephant Toe patterns , thank you for sharing it with us Yank!


"Texas collector", Roger - 50/2050

Not the first time I have been corrected; albeit by a secret society

Again, nice collection.

Mike,
First, thanks for the compliment. Also, when you say "made by Case" what specifically do you mean ? This issue has been debated at length in the time I have been collecting, and I always seems to come to what i meant by "made by Case" Did they do all the hafting/die cutting/assembly etc etc. Or did they merely assemble the parts. If so, either way, did JP or anyone give you a reason why those patterns ? If true, why give the credit for Mfr to Blue Grass? I am not asking you to be a smart ass or anything, would only wish to hear what your understanding from JP (God rest his soul, his undeserving brat is contributing to the sickness created by a few usurpers, I won't name names, but it sounds like "DumbAssKissDude" I doubt he would approve)anyhow, what was the info you received? Thanks Mike, by the way, very nice, and easily navigable website.

Roger,
Is it still raining enuf to drownfrogs down there?? I really appreciate the kind and articulate comments you left at this thread. They are exceptional furthermore due to the fact, I believe, and I would ask a detractor to prove, you have the largest and most comphrehensive collection of Case Classic Elepahnt-Toe pattern knives world-wide. There, I said it. Now, Buzzard-Lassie may be holding, but he doesn't count because he handed them out, or more accurately, gave his butt-kissing, star-struck cronies, first picks at all of them , afterwards then likely begrudgingly doleing out the remaining crumbs to use lower-class folk. I better cease with the compliments hey?, or I'll have Ed, and his other brown-nosers standing up for his worthless carcass . Perhaps Scott King may have more in number and competitive brands, but I stand by my statement until I stand corrected. I liked Buzz at one time,,,,,,oh yeah, that was b4 I knew him. heeheehee
Thanks again Roger, and Mike too.

It is obvious my understanding of the Classics program is all flawed. But if it doesn't violate any secret handshakes I do have a couple of questions I would like explained a little.

Do you contend that Charlie made ANY component of these products in house? Why was the XXX used, and why on just three models?

Thanks

Howdy Mike,

Those questions are loaded for sure my knifer friend & before I say anything else regarding these matters please go to the Case Classic section of this forum & scroll to topic ---> "Who made what" & read all three pages to see if this topic answers your first question then let us know your thoughts, OK?


"Texas collector", Roger - 50/2050

I sincerely hope this "Who made what" thread is not the extent of knowledge of all those perusing these forums. Everyone that SHOULD know says Case made four models and Queen made the rest. The only people that claim anything different are those associated with BGC.

I concur that BGC bought old factory equipment, and it may even have been used in producing the Classics. I concur that Jim had to once-remove himself from actually contracting the knives made by anyone other than Case. But my two questions still stand; I would also like to add one. I am looking only for your understandings.

Do you contend that BGC made ANY component of these products in house? If no, do you contend that BGC even ASSEMBLED components in anything other than a repair situation in house? Why was the XXX used, and why on just three models?

You are right, these are heavily loaded questions; but it would be good to at least understand where you are at on these questions.

Just a good conversation in the spirit of a common understanding.

Hi Glenn,

Let me take a minute and say thank you for sharing those great looking blades, it's always appreciated...

Sunburst

Hello Mike,

It is my belief & my own personal opinion that Blue Grass Cutlery had nothing to do with the manufacturing or assembly of the Classics but rather were the contractor's for the most part, the Case Classic program was Jim Parker's dream come true as he was in heavy with Charlie Dorton, the Master Cutlery Craftsman! ....Mike, for me to state anything more on this matter or answer your other questions would be a serious infraction of our Clubs bylaws & I truly hope that you will understand this & my position as a standing member of the Case Classics Club, again I urge & invite you to become a member as you will have access to all accounts of the true knife history of the knives that were produced in the Case Classic program, dues are only $10.00 a year & that my knifer friend is a real bargain when you take into account all the information that would be available to you!

Hope all is well with you & yours, you take care now Mike!


"Texas collector", Roger - 50/2050

Roger - 50/2050 wrote:
for me to state anything more on this matter or answer your other questions would be a serious infraction of our Clubs bylaws. I truly hope that you will understand this & my position as a standing member of the Case Classics Club, again I urge & invite you to become a member as you will have access to all accounts of the true knife history of the knives that were produced in the Case Classic program, dues are only $10.00 a year & that my knifer friend is a real bargain when you take into account all the information that would be available to you!

Hope all is well with you & yours, you take care now Mike!


"Texas collector", Roger - 50/2050

A while back I tried to join the "Case Classics Club" and the web page would not work. After hearing the above remark I am glad it did not. In my opinion any club or orginization that has bylaws or rules which stop a knife collector (member) from sharing any information about knives with other collectors is seriously flawed. I do not want to be a member of such an organization. A organization of this type does not help to promote "knife collecting" and should give all descent knife collectors a bad taste in their mouth.