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remington knives
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:03 am
by vperkins
Am I correct on this? The old Remington knives were made by Camillus and the new ones are made by Bear. Also there is an import version.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:55 pm
by Paladin

(LOL) To us old timers the 'old' Remingtons were made by Remington and were possibly the best pocket knife made in the USA at the time. They were made from 1920 to 1940, when Remington sold their cutlery division to Pal.
I am not much into the later Rems so one of the collectors of newer Remingtons will fill us in on that.
Ray
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:08 pm
by vperkins
Thanks Paladin, have been waiting to see if anyone else knew anything or added to the post. So we have Remington made Remington, from 1920-1940, until they sold the knife division to Pal, then Pal got out about 1950, what happened after Pal. Is that where Camillus came in, then Bear. I know some of our experts out there know. Thanks
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:29 pm
by Paladin
In checking Goins Encyclopedia, Pal closed its doors in 1953. Again, according to Goins, in 1982, Camillus began making commemorative knives for Remington. There were some authorized reproductiions made in Germany and these are so stamped on the back of the tang. Goins does not go into the later production of the Remingtons.
Ray
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:07 pm
by johnnierotten
Great answers, Ray.

.....I noticed on my old Remington,they have brass liners where as the Pals do not....reason being,brass was of short supply after WWII.Definitely takes away from the beauty of a knife.IMO.

Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:44 pm
by luv2fsh2
I have a question about my grandfather's Remington Trapper R1123. Anyone out there available to discuss?
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:50 pm
by stockman
Go ahead
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:02 pm
by luv2fsh2
My grandfather's R1123 Trapper has the number R1128 stamped on the clip blade and R1123 stamped on the spey blade. I have read that model R1123 was bone handle (which this knife is) and R1128 was cocobola. Why are the blades numbered differnet?
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:11 pm
by stockman
The 1128 were made with a 1123 blade stamped over to read 1128. Maybe they put a 1128
blade in. Do you know the history of the knife. could you show a picture of the knife. These are nice old knives I hope everything is right on yours. Maybe the Remington collector will
see this soon and tell us what he thinks. Is the R1128 stamping clear?
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:19 pm
by luv2fsh2
The knife was my grandfathers and was given to me when he passed away in the late 1960's. It has bone handles, brass linings. Everything is in perfect condition (no cracks in the bone). Granddad carried this knike everyday, so it was sharpened pretty regular. The springs are still strong and the knife still has snap to it.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:58 pm
by stockman
luv2fsh2, Your knife sounds good, pictures would help. If you could post. There is a lot of help
on this forum.
Stockman
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:19 pm
by luv2fsh2
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:20 pm
by luv2fsh2
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:56 pm
by knife7knut
A beautiful old knife for sure!The master blade shows a lot of wear whereas the spey blade much less.The scales have the most beautiful wear to them;obviously carried for many years.
Remington Bullet knives are highly collectible and even in the state of wear yours is in would bring a goodly amount.I seriously doubt you would sell it anyway;if it were mine I would treasure it forever.
I have two knives my grandfather used daily and even though they are inexpensive pieces to me they are priceless.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:09 pm
by luv2fsh2
Thank you for your comments. You are correct, this knife will be passed down through the family. I am just curious as to why the blades have differnet model # on them
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:27 pm
by knife7knut
luv2fsh2 wrote:Thank you for your comments. You are correct, this knife will be passed down through the family. I am just curious as to why the blades have differnet model # on them
Just speculation on my part but when that knife was made Remington was making literally thousands of knives per day and the chances of installing an incorrect blade in a frame were probably pretty high.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:30 pm
by johnnierotten
Awesome knife...thats one of my favorite patterns!!

Re: remington knives
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:46 pm
by markbrower
VERY cool knife. Even better that it was your grandads. Great looking wear, obviously your grandad liked it as much as I do. Consider yourself lucky!! Mark
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:19 pm
by luv2fsh2
Thanks Mark. Yep, granddad was a big outdoorsman and he carried this knife everywhere.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:38 pm
by davidketterer
So, how are Remingtons now?
A friend at work is very proud of his new, I believe made in China, Remington. He tested the Rockwell at 56, he said.
Anywayz, are they any good now? Steel, heat treat, and utility are all for me.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:59 pm
by vperkins
davidketterer: It is my understanding that presently, the Remingtons being made now come from two sources. There is a china import version, which is very enexpensive, but still a good knife and a american made knife by Bear Cutlery. Bear makes a quality knife. they are located in Jacksonville, Alabama. Many, not all, of the knife makers have an import version and still offer an american made version. Boker, Gerber, Winchester and Buck are only a few. I recently joined the new Remington Knife Collectors Club that offers a yearly club knife, new members knife and other exclusive offers. All of their knives are being made by Bear Cutlery.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:50 pm
by davidketterer
Thanks for the information!
Any idea what steel the import has? What steel the Bear version has?
Re: remington knives
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:31 am
by vperkins
The import version and the Bear made knife both are listed as having 440 stainless. The difference is the carbon content. The import is a 440a and the bear is a 440c. The 440c is a higher carbon content making it a more desireable steel, with a higher rockwell rating.
Re: remington knives
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:12 am
by davidketterer
Thank you very much for your answer.
440A seems to be the most common steel in "decent for the price" knives these days. I think Rough Riders are 440A.
vperkins wrote:The import version and the Bear made knife both are listed as having 440 stainless. The difference is the carbon content. The import is a 440a and the bear is a 440c. The 440c is a higher carbon content making it a more desireable steel, with a higher rockwell rating.