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Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:47 pm
by smiling-knife
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:00 am
by Another Knife Collector
Thanks for posting the pictures S-K.

The "A Very Clear Day." caption is funny with all the smoke going up from the factories, but it's also probably quite true. Here's a picture of a couple of my father's Sheffield pruners that I thought belonged here. A Saynor and an Abram Brooksbank.

Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:37 am
by smiling-knife
Thanks for posting your great old pruners AKC. These two were made by Harrison Bros and Howson. The second one, with a hand-forged srping, dates way back into the 1800s

s-k

Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:02 pm
by jonet143
great article and pics steve. great knives, guys.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:00 pm
by edgy46
A relic knife but very old. I will let SK tell about it [please], so the information is correct.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:21 pm
by upnorth
Here's a name you don't see often; well, I don't anyway!
Humphrey's Radiant.
Two knives, The first two pics, a sleeveboard pen with imitation Ivory, and the second three pics, a Tortoise pen. The tortoise knife is loose, but I could not resist the amazing filework!
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:50 am
by Miller Bro's
Here is a BIG one! 5 1/4" closed, can`t make out the full mark, .....& bunch`s celebrated cutlery. M.B.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:56 pm
by smiling-knife
Thanks very much for your posts and showing your knives everyone. Edgy46 and MB, I'll try to post some information for you later in the week. Edgy does your knife have a harp on the back of one of the tangs? Waynorth very nice springs on your Humphreys knife. Is it a whitter? This is a Humphreys Radiant ringturn knife with faux ivory scales circa 1920s or so.

s-k

Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:49 pm
by edgy46
Edgy46 and MB, I'll try to post some information for you later in the week. Edgy does your knife have a harp on the back of one of the tangs?
After cleaning the back of the master blade tang and under 15 power magnification I found the harp. The knife is two and one half inches long.
Added picture of the master blade Tang pile side. 3-18 09
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:43 am
by Another Knife Collector
Nice knives everyone,

That turn ring is a neat find S-K
Here's a couple more to add, a Columbia Cutlery Company bone whittler and an ivory Venture Slater Bros. sleeveboard pen, both pre-1890, I beleive.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:14 am
by upnorth
Yes, the tortoise is a whittler s-k. And the Ivory on that Venture Slater is just stunning AKC!
Here are some I*XLs, two versions of an HJ, and a Hawkbill with Brass handles.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:15 pm
by smiling-knife
edgy46 wrote:A relic knife but very old. I will let SK tell about it [please], so the information is correct.
Hi edgy. Sorry for the delay... I haven't forgot about your knife. Are those nickel silver pins? Goins says 1825-1852 for Wade Wingfield and Rowbotham but I have one that is suspected to be made later. Your knife looks later 1800s style and material wise but just speculation at the moment. I have some time in the next few weeks so will try to add more definitive information if possible.

s-k
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:12 pm
by orvet
Here is a product of Sheffield who frequently accompanies me on my daily rounds,
assisting me with chores.
Dale
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:01 am
by edgy46
smiling-knife wrote:edgy46 wrote:A relic knife but very old. I will let SK tell about it [please], so the information is correct.
Hi edgy. Sorry for the delay... I haven't forgot about your knife. Are those nickel silver pins? Goins says 1825-1852 for Wade Wingfield and Rowbotham but I have one that is suspected to be made later. Your knife looks later 1800s style and material wise but just speculation at the moment. I have some time in the next few weeks so will try to add more definitive information if possible.

s-k
Hi sk. in answer to your question the pins are not n/s, they are iron or steel. If those dates are correct, it is the oldest knife i have not made of rock.

Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:00 pm
by upnorth
This Joseph Rodgers and Sons pruner appears in a 1910 catalog, and was called a coffee pruner, I am told. It was recently found in Port Stanley, Ontario, on the northern shore of Lake Erie, in the heart of the Tobacco belt. Tobacco cultivation started there with the native population, and became bigger and more commercial in the early 1800s. The finder sold it to me via Ebay. I imagine the knife making the trip from Sheffield, across the Atlantic, up the Hudson, down the Erie Canal, and across Lake Erie! The Boat(s) may have dropped Emigrating cutlers off in the New World as well!!
Bernie Levine thought the skill/art of "scratting" was lost in the late 1800s, but this knife suggests it lingered for a while. He admits dating Jos. Rodgers knives is not easy!!
Scratted bone may never have been done in North America, commercially.
Big knife at a bit over 4 7/8".
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:02 am
by Another Knife Collector
Fantastic find upnorth, and in great condition to boot! The scratting is something special and adds a great quality to it.
Picked this ivory horseman's knife up a little while back and despite its damage it's one of my favorites. Marked REPEAT NEEDHAM BROTHERS SHEFFIELD.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:55 pm
by upnorth
Some really nice details on that knife AKC!
Here's a 3 1/2" congress I just purchased. I love nicely fitted blackened stag! After you cure all that tobacco you harvested with the big pruner, you can cut yourself a "chaw"

with your tobacco blade, and brag about the nice knife!
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 2:56 pm
by smiling-knife
Thanks for posting yourgreat looking knives guys

. Charlie the scratted bone is fantastic. That's a real treat to see. In looking through the 1875 Wostenholm catalogue, I see that the knives listed as Tobacco knives are what we would generally call congress knives i.e., two sheepfoot blades and two pen blades. The knives marked as Congress knives appear to have one large sheepsfoot and 3 smaller blades

s-k
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:33 am
by knifegirl888
Bret got this from a postman. The postman didn't deliver it to our mailbox though, he was selling knives at a gunshow this past weekend.

Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:30 am
by knife7knut
Here's a few of mine.Some may have been posted before on other posts.
1st picture: 2 old I*XL folders;one marked Celebrated Cutlery.
2nd picture:3 old ones;a George Woodhead;a Samuel Robinson;and an unmarked large folder(replaced handmade blade;looks English)
3rd picture:Harrison Brothers & Howson.
4th picture:an I*XL ivory quill knife in like new condition.
5th picture:a pipe knife with folding tobacco tamper by Brookes & Crookes.
6th picture:a small R.Bunting & Sons half congress.
7th picture:A Saynor florist knife with one piece ivory handle.
8th picture: A Saynor Henderson florist knife with one piece ivory handle.
9th picture:a 4 blade pen marked,"Silver Steel" with an owl's head on the reverse.(no info on this one either).
last picture.My 1st stag scaled knife:a Saynor Obtain Warranted pruner with one piece iron liners/bolsters.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:38 am
by Bret888
Nice ones K7! Old Sheffield knives are at the top of my favorites list.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:47 am
by danno50
Lot's of nice knives posted so far. Got this IXL wharncliff whittler at a gun show last week.
Dan
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:07 am
by Iron Hoarder
Nice stuff everybody!

Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:24 pm
by Bret888
Nice one Danno! It is nice to have an original, of what has become quite popular in recent years.
Re: Sheffield Knife Lore
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:08 pm
by Sauconian
Nice knives everyone !
This 4'' whittler is stamped W.Landell / 105 Trongate / Glasgow on all 3 blades. SK thinks they were a sporting goods company in Scotland.
An unfortunate crack in the ivory, but hey, it was a free knife...and gets occasional pocket polish.
Fran