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Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:45 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
My personal views to the side...what are the reasons you believe that this is an original factory Remington R3413? No harm in asking Keith. Just trying to understand your research and rational on this knife.

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:19 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
Just sharing a thought or two.
It was back on February 8th,2010 when Damitri asked the question,”Where are all the Remington knife collectors”?
It was then that the call was answered at first by Paul, Bob, Harold, Philip and others and we began to see and share knowledge on Remington collecting and the history of Remington’s cutlery. It was infectious information and practical illustration for every collector especially for a Remington enthusiast/ collector .
The Remington torch was carried by those that had and shared a passion for Remington and wanted to expand that passion and share that information with others so as to enhance each collector’s experience and provide a reasonable guidepost for others to possibly use in buying pieces for their collection. Personally speaking I sat at the knee of a few of those folks sucking up as much as I could learn, honing my collector’s craft.
In the 9 years since then what a wonderful illustrative catalogue of topics, knives and memorabilia on the Remington name brand and cutlery subject matter in general that has been accumulated and shared for the whole world to read. Thank you Bryan again and again.
Some at one time or another were torch bearers and were given the name “Remington whales” because of their knowledge and expertise on Remington cutlery or the company in general. That knowledge was valued and looked upon as a notch above the rest. They were the “go to” persons for solid guidance and answers.
Today, there are some new standard bearers and my challenge to you is “Know your passion”! Others are looking to you for sound guidance and direction. Research your passion and stand ready to give others your reason for your thoughts and opinions. Share not only the example but the rational description with the example. Yes I know some will say,”Damn Rocky lighten up it’s just a knife forum”... yes true, but for me it has always been more... a tight community of friends, family, teachers and so much more.
Excuse the rantings of an old fool...but I believe the torch must be carried responsibly high so as to clearly light the way for next generation of passionate collectors. ::tu:: ::handshake::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:16 pm
by espn77
I agree with you Rocky, I've had that knife for over a year and haven't posted it because I wasn't sure if it was correct. As I've collected more and seen variations in a pattern I believe the knife to be right. The knife should have a long pull and an acorn shield, according to the reference books. It's a late 30's knife and that is where I see the most differences. Here is another knife. R4853. Ink stamp, more than likely a contract knife, Stewart and Ritchie describe the knife just like mine but have a picture of it without a punch blade. The more Remington knives I see, handle, own, the more questions I have. Shouldn't that be the opposite???

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:17 pm
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
Post everything Keith! No one is the beginning and the end authority on Remington’s cutlery. Give the info you have and then put it on the table for discussion and others opinions. If after pictures and full discussion you find a knife to be a part of the fold then...marvelous! If not, you and others have shared valuable knowledge that makes one wiser as a collector. We, (AAPK) have a deep well of gracious knowledge when it comes to collecting. Some have been at it longer than others and may have an understanding or a different view that might be worth the listen. For me... this is the cornerstone of the forum... sharing and discussion...teaching, learning and growing. You are a part of this... you are now one of the torch bearers. You are one of the go to guys for others who need clarification and guidance.
Remember Remington’s pledge of quality and craftsmanship. The attention to detail in material and standards that set them apart from anyone else in the day.
Yes you will find variance in patterns... maybe related to the subcontracted knife or the give away/ awards knife. Yes things changed towards the end of Remington’s cutlery hay day and for that reason have a discerning eye. Many work within that realm to pass a knife off as legitimate when it is not. Nevertheless you are acquiring a beautiful collection. Continue to seek out and know your passion. ::handshake:: ::tu::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:21 pm
by stockman
I went back through all 64 pages and looked at the pictures, no reading just enjoyed the pictures.

Harold

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:21 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
It is truly an amazing pictorial of beautiful knives Harold. I too go back for a look see and am amazed at the tremendous collection that this forum has acquired! Great collectors with great Remington knives! ::tu::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:49 am
by espn77
Some things we come across just make us scratch our head.
Someone went into the store and needed a pry bar and the hardware store was sold out. So the next best thing was this knife, purchased it and went to use the main blade to pry open something, breaking the tip off the blade they thought, dog gone it, that isn't going to work. Went to the pen blade only to snap it clean off. This R15 knife I think still has the factory edge. ::facepalm::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:00 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
Keith that is a crying shame! I have that knife and posted it in the forum somewhere. It really is a stout little knife and has a lot to offer. Like you I believe it’s the original knife with factory etch and edge. ::uc:: ::doh:: ::dang::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:18 am
by peanut740
Keith,that is a prying shame. ::facepalm:: :mrgreen:

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:24 am
by espn77
Hard to believe

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:53 pm
by luckydog64
I really appreciate AAPK, you guys and gals have shared so much information. I stumbled across this knife a few months back. There is no tang stamp and no etch. But from spending a little time reading here I had an idea what it was, I think. I remembered a post about a Remington offer in a Hunter Trapper Trader magazine. Is this one of those?

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:18 pm
by pearlroosterman
Yes it is. Most had only blade etch. I have owned both with blade etch only and tang stamped. Very few with tang stamping. They were offered as a premium in the late 20’s. I have a copy of the ad but I will have to find it. Thank you, John

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:00 pm
by espn77
Those are cool knives I think. Big man knives. I know a couple of guys have better examples than mine here, but here is mine. No tang stamp and no etch. I believe they came with an etch originally but mine has been rubbed off.

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:55 pm
by RalphAlsip
I believe the pattern is called a Bulldog. Here is how it was advertised in the Hunter-Trader-Trapper (HTT) magazine. My example has an etch, but has no markings whatsoever on the tang. You will notice the image in the magazine ad shows both etching and tang marks. Of the few of these that I have seen, my experience echos pearlroosterman's in that very few have tang marks.

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:38 pm
by luckydog64
Thanks for your replies. Mine has considerable wear looks like. I am happy to have come across it and even known what it was. Only one I have ever seen besides here. I am not focused on Remingtons like some are but have managed to find a few. I am really grateful to be able to have access to the knowledge here at AAPK.

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:41 pm
by espn77
luckydog64 wrote:Thanks for your replies. Mine has considerable wear looks like. I am happy to have come across it and even known what it was. Only one I have ever seen besides here. I am not focused on Remingtons like some are but have managed to find a few. I am really grateful to be able to have access to the knowledge here at AAPK.
You did good finding your knife ::tu::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:12 pm
by ScoutKnives
Still looking for a mint ::dang:: r963 but this one will have to do for now ::groove::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:16 pm
by ScoutKnives
Junior scout R4384 .
Thanks for looking .

Mike

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:18 pm
by espn77
Mike. You picked up some great ones. I was wondering if you got that R963. Very nice ::tu:: that R4384 is the first one I've ever seen. Thanks

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:01 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
Mike thank you for the look see! You always have impressive knives to show. Beautiful examples, thanks for taking the time to post them. ::woot:: ::tu::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:26 pm
by ScoutKnives
Thank you Keith and Rocky .

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:38 pm
by RalphAlsip
Mike, your 2 recent scout knives are fine examples of old Remington cutlery. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:46 pm
by peanut740
Mike,those are fine! ::tu::

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:31 am
by espn77
I'm back on the R3413 authenticity kick. Since the convention ended on the last 2 pages I've been hunting for another example to measure to. I got a R3415 with the same exact blade configuration and nail nick. My R3413 has the incorrect shield but every other part of the knife matches the R3415.

Re: Where Are All The Remington Knife Collectors?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:27 pm
by espn77
Most toothpicks I see have a flat ground blade. This R933 has a classy saber grind imo.