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Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:24 pm
by 2xTap
I picked this one up about a month ago........finally got around to cleaning it up a little and getting pics taken. A Robeson 642214 Scout in Strawberry Jigged Delrin.

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It's in excellent condition, aside from coming with some patches of discoloration on the bail, a few spots along the backspring area, and a few small spots along the main blade's spine....as well as some handling marks on the blade/tools and bolsters, it looks unused.

Couldn't really tell from the sellers pics if the handles were bone but when I finally got it in hand I could tell they are jigged Delrin. Judging by the tang stamps which read ROBESON/SHUREDGE/U.S.A. in all block letters.....

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With the pattern No.# 642214 on the reverse.......

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.......the knife appears to be of 1940-1964 production. Did some research and I was able to narrow that down to having likely been made in around 1959-1964 due to the Starwberry colored jigged Delrin scales.

Anyway, the liners and pins are brass, bolsters and shield appear to be nickle/silver.....the one thing I am not sure of is the steel. Aside from small discoloration marks on the spine of the main blade (most of which disappeared with a little Flitz) I can find no rust or peppering. Not sure if this thing is stainless or carbon steel. Blade/tools are polished, doesn't look like it has been sharpened at all and the edge is decently sharp. Fit and finish is real good, backsprings are decently stout and the knife is sans any gaps......

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I think I did good on this one as I got it pretty cheap, I think, if my conclusions to how old this thing is are right. If anyone can fill me in more on this particular piece I'd appreciate it.

2xTap

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:23 am
by RobesonsRme.com
That's a nice example of a 1959 - 1965 Robeson 214 pattern scout/utility.

The blades are probably carbon steel. If they were stainless, the third digit in the pattern number would most likely have been a nine and there would have most likely been an etch on the master spear stating, "RUSTLESS - STAINLESS".

You see that I've left myself open to being wrong without actually being wrong. ::tu::

Charlie Noyes

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:19 am
by stockman
Western / Boulder Colo./Made in USA Offical Boy Scouts of America. 4 1/2" blade.
I wanted to know when this knife was born and a approximate value. Scout on strap is
up side down, I flipped it but it would not stay??? Picture of knife should enlarge.

Thank You
Stockman

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:52 am
by 2xTap
RobesonsRme.com wrote:That's a nice example of a 1959 - 1965 Robeson 214 pattern scout/utility.

The blades are probably carbon steel. If they were stainless, the third digit in the pattern number would most likely have been a nine and there would have most likely been an etch on the master spear stating, "RUSTLESS - STAINLESS".

You see that I've left myself open to being wrong without actually being wrong. ::tu::

Charlie Noyes
Thanks Charlie, I'm figuring it is carbon given it's age. Not all that up on Robeson history myself, wasn't sure if they marked all their stainless blades on all their patterns. I appreciate the info, either way.

2xTap

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:45 am
by jerryd6818
2xTap wrote:
RobesonsRme.com wrote:That's a nice example of a 1959 - 1965 Robeson 214 pattern scout/utility.

The blades are probably carbon steel. If they were stainless, the third digit in the pattern number would most likely have been a nine and there would have most likely been an etch on the master spear stating, "RUSTLESS - STAINLESS".

You see that I've left myself open to being wrong without actually being wrong. ::tu::

Charlie Noyes
Thanks Charlie, I'm figuring it is carbon given it's age. Not all that up on Robeson history myself, wasn't sure if they marked all their stainless blades on all their patterns. I appreciate the info, either way.

2xTap
Not running your knife down. It's a beautiful piece and I wouldn't mind having one just like it, but (IMO) the pits in the blade are also a tell.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:21 pm
by 2xTap
Jerry,

I was looking at those when I was cleaning up the knife. But I got the impression they were there before the knife was built. Likely before the blade was blanked. Could of been caused by something during the manufacture of the sheet steel or after that caused the pits. The pits appear slightly polished out and they go down past the liners......and it's only on this one side of the mainblade, and no other blade/tools have these. And I found no orange rust in this area.

So I am thinking what ever caused the pits happened before production.....and most stainless steels will rust so I don't get suspicious unless I see a level of patina forming. And what little discoloration there was on the blade came off readily with a little hand rubbed Flitz. But I am no expert, and given it's age I'm leaning at the likelihood of it being carbon steel.

2xTap

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:24 pm
by jerryd6818
I see what you mean. You would think, in other times, Case Quality Control would have rejected this blade but with the Chinese nipping at their heals maybe they have no choice these days. ::shrug::

Image AGAIN ::facepalm::

That's me. Not the rest of y'all.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:15 pm
by paulsvintage
::tu:: great knives guys
one more for this thread a R4373 girl scout knife

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:45 pm
by Old Hunter
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Bought this "Official BSA" Boy Scout pocketknife today at a local Pawn & Gun. This is the way I remember them looking when I was a Boy Scout (in the 1960's) This one was made by Ulster USA and is in right decent shape, only a small chip broken off the tip of the leather punch which I've already re-contoured on an Arkansas stone.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:55 pm
by jerryd6818
You did well, OH.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:51 pm
by vikingdog
Nice knife Old Hunter. I have a couple of these Ulsters and I've been carrying one of them, without a bail, every day for awhile now. They are really nice practical knives. Just like my original Boy Scout knife from 1965. ::tu::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:06 am
by DR_MAGOO
Got this ULSTER USA.
Can anyone provide an approximate age???
Thanks

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:08 pm
by philco
DR_MAGOO wrote:Got this ULSTER USA.
Can anyone provide an approximate age???
Thanks

My references show it was made from 1962-1979.

Phil

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:23 pm
by DR_MAGOO
Thanks Phil

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:31 pm
by johnnierotten
Here is the last one I picked up......Robeson from Steve (knifeaholic)....He is very patient and a great person to do business with. ::tu:: 8)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:39 pm
by Miller Bro's
Nice one Johnnie 8) ::tu::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:55 pm
by johnnierotten
Thank ya ,Dimitri. ::tu:: 8)
It’s the only Robeson Scout that I own.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:19 am
by RobesonsRme.com
You got a goodun.
Charlie Noyes

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:54 am
by johnnierotten
Thanks Charlie. ::tu:: .......I really like it. ::nod::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:19 pm
by paulsvintage
::tu:: nice Johnnie, glad to see you posting ::nod::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:33 pm
by johnnierotten
Thank ya...Paul. ::tu:: 8)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:02 pm
by tank
I got this Camillus Standard Scout other day and any info on it would be appreciated. I can't find it in my books.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:03 pm
by orvet
johnnierotten wrote:Thank ya...Paul. ::tu:: 8)

WELCOME HOME JOHNNIE!!!
::ds:: ::ds:: ::ds:: ::ds::

Great to have you back online where you belong Johnnie!
Welcome back Bro!

Dale

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:09 pm
by johnnierotten
Thanks very much,Dale. ::tu:: ........you da Man!!! 8) ::handshake::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:17 pm
by wazu013
Welcome back Johnie ::tu::
wazu013