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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:44 am
by Papa Bones
doglegg wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:19 am I agree with Skip and 2nd the motion. That is a wonderful example and great information as well. ::nod:: ::nod:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Appreciate it Floyd. I found a lot of good info and a good read on this thread if anyone wants to take a gander. https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/ols ... 491/page-2

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:21 am
by Papa Bones
I added these two 72 Clones to the family today. They were inexpensive knives that had several issues, but one is a fairly hard knife (I feel) that I've not seen pop up very often. Both will make good fillers until better comes along.

First is a Imperial Hammer Brand Swell Center Whittler. The Tang Stamp with the U.S.A. dates this knife in the range of 1945-1955. The knife had some rust on the blades & in the well, The blades do have wear, and some pitting. The Handles do show some shrinkage and is missing the shield. I had to do some cleaning, hot oil bath, tuff glide exercising, and did do some polishing with some case paste. Thankfully all the blades did come back to life and actually have real good snap. I was really impressed considering the way it looked.
hbwa.png
hbwb.png
Here is what it looks like now.
Hammer Brand Swell Center Whit_a.png
Hammer Brand Swell Center Whit_b.png
Hammer Brand Swell Center Whit_c.png
I also added another Craftsman 9494. This one is the variation with the lighter colored handles. I've always thought it looked more like a peanut shell. This one was about in as bad as shape as the Hammer Brand. Not quite as much rust, but you can see that the blades have been abused with some grinder marks. But I gave it the same treatment, and the Master Clip, and the coping blade have great snap. The secondary clip has weak snap. The blade wells were gunky with crud and built up lint and looked like some dirt added for good measure. But I believe it cleaned up well, and I love this handle variation / color. As I said, will make a good filler until I can find one better.
Here is how she looks.
Craftsman 9494 lt del_a.png
Craftsman 9494 lt del_b.png
Craftsman 9494 Lt Del_c.png

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:38 am
by doglegg
::nod:: ::nod:: ::nod:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:12 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:21 am I.....
Good job Smitty. ::tu::
A couple of nice "72" variations
to add to your collection. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:29 pm
by Papa Bones
doglegg wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:38 am ::nod:: ::nod:: ::nod:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ::handshake::
Thanks Floyd



New_Windsor_NY wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:12 pm
Good job Smitty. ::tu::
A couple of nice "72" variations
to add to your collection. ::tu::
Appreciate it Skip,

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:34 am
by Papa Bones
Added this one to my 72 Clone family today. It is a Imperial Boy Scout Swell Center Whittler, with black handles, metal Boy Scout Shield, and Has the tang stamp IMPERIAL over PROV R.I. which dates this knife in the 1936-1952 year range, but I am sure this one is probably from the 50's. This is my second Imperial Scout Whittler 72 clone, but the other one is a later date tang stamp.

This one was pretty cruddy, and needed some TLC which included cleaning, oiling and some polishing. It has scratches, and had some light rust inside the wells and on the coping blade. Also, the blades were not smooth in operation. As you can tell, at some time in it's life, a prior owner must have confused a grinder for a whit rock. Now, The Master Clip has good snap, the secondary clip and coping blade have great snap, but the coping blade does have a little looseness side to side. The coping blade also has some pitting. I still need to do a little more work on the blades. But I am pleased the way it turned out so far.

Here are some before and after shots.

Before
imp kni.jpg
imp blade.jpg
After
Imp Prov RI Scout_a.png
Imp Prov RI Scout_aa.png
Imp Prov RI Scout_bb.png
Imp Prov RI Scout_c.png

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:40 am
by Ripster
Papa Bones wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:34 am Added this one to my 72 Clone family today. It is a Imperial Boy Scout Swell Center Whittler, with black handles, metal Boy Scout Shield, and Has the tang stamp IMPERIAL over PROV R.I. which dates this knife in the 1936-1952 year range, but I am sure this one is probably from the 50's. This is my second Imperial Scout Whittler 72 clone, but the other one is a later date tang stamp.

This one was pretty cruddy, and needed some TLC which included cleaning, oiling and some polishing. It has scratches, and had some light rust inside the wells and on the coping blade. Also, the blades were not smooth in operation. As you can tell, at some time in it's life, a prior owner must have confused a grinder for a whit rock. Now, The Master Clip has good snap, the secondary clip and coping blade have great snap, but the coping blade does have a little looseness side to side. The coping blade also has some pitting. I still need to do a little more work on the blades. But I am pleased the way it turned out so far.

Here are some before and after shots.

Before
imp kni.jpg
imp blade.jpg

After
Imp Prov RI Scout_a.png
Imp Prov RI Scout_aa.png
Imp Prov RI Scout_bb.png
Imp Prov RI Scout_c.png
Smitty, you been snagging some good ones lately ,they cleaned up nice.
Thanks for sharing your Clones with us. Have a good one, stay safe and warm.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:40 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:34 am Added.....
Smitty, you are on the offensive! ::tu::
Good job! ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:03 pm
by Papa Bones
Ripster wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:40 am Smitty, you been snagging some good ones lately ,they cleaned up nice.
Thanks for sharing your Clones with us. Have a good one, stay safe and warm.
Appreciate it JP

New_Windsor_NY wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:40 pm
Smitty, you are on the offensive! ::tu::
Good job! ::tu::
Thanks Skip

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:18 pm
by Papa Bones
Added another one today. Although technically a 72 is has the blade etch "Yellow Jacket" with the Yellow Jacket Wasp which also makes it a variation. This one as you can see has the Double Line Camillus tang stamp with the matching Double Line Camillus Shield. This one is like new with All blades having smooth tight movement, with no wobble, excellent snap, and have the original factory grind & hone marks and has not been put against a stone since purchased. The blade etch is clear and bold. The blade well is clean and free of any rust. The bolsters do have some light scratches or rubs, but is not distracting and I believe a little case paste will clean them right up.

This is my second 72 Yellow Jacket, but this one is in much better shape than my first and the blade etch is way more bold. Here are the pictures right after I took it out of the mailer. All I've done is wiped it with a case chamois .
Camillus 72 YJ DL tang and shield_a.png
Camillus 72 YJ DL tang and shield_b.png
Camillus 72 YJ DL tang and shield_c.png
Camillus 72 YJ DL tang and shield_d.png
Cammillus 72 YJ DL tang and shield_e.png

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:45 pm
by doglegg
::tu:: ::tu:: ::nod:: ::nod:: ::smirk::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:45 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:18 pm Added.....
You can never have enough "72" variations. ::tu::
Good find Smitty. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:27 am
by Papa Bones
doglegg wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:45 pm ::tu:: ::tu:: ::nod:: ::nod:: ::smirk::
Appreciate it Floyd.

New_Windsor_NY wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:45 pm
You can never have enough "72" variations. ::tu::
Good find Smitty. ::tu::
So True Skip. Thanks.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:43 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Today this became the latest addition to my CAMILLUS 72 variation/clone collection. It's a HAMMER BRAND, 3 blades, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, "whittler" pocket knife. I gave it a minor cleaning, I took some pictures and here it is.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:55 pm
by doglegg
Wonderful example Skip. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:07 am
by Ripster
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:43 pm Today this became the latest addition to my CAMILLUS 72 variation/clone collection. It's a HAMMER BRAND, 3 blades, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, "whittler" pocket knife. I gave it a minor cleaning, I took some pictures and here it is.
Hey Skip, another nice score,must be approaching 100 by now ?
Thanks for taking the time to share pics. Take care out there ::tu::
Stay safe and warm ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:19 am
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:55 pm Wonderful.....
Thank you Floyd.🍻

Ripster wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:07 am Hey.....
Thank you JP.
I don't know how many "72" variations/clones I have.
I'll count them later and post the results here.
::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:30 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:07 am
Hey Skip, another nice score,must be approaching 100 by now ?
JP, I now have 102, CAMILLUS 72 variation/clone pocket knives.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:01 am
by Ripster
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:30 am
Ripster wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:07 am
Hey Skip, another nice score,must be approaching 100 by now ?
JP, I now have 102, CAMILLUS 72 variation/clone pocket knives.
Your in the triple digits ::tu:: Thanks for posting all those, you’ve scored some dandies over time.
Take care.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:11 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:01 am Your.....
I'm not even close to being done looking for more of them. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:50 am
by TPK
Some really nice looking additions Smitty & Skip! ::tu:: :D

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:07 am
by New_Windsor_NY
TPK wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:50 am Some.....
Thank you Tom.🍻

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:39 pm
by Shearer
Here's one.( China or Pakistan )
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=69803

Grant

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:56 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Shearer wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:39 pm Here's.....
Hi Grant. I saw that. I have a CAMILLUS 72 variation, the whole pocket knife,
not just the scales. It has the exact same shield.I believe that mine is from
China or Pakistan. The one on eBay looks like a CATTARAUGUS pocket knife
with the China or Pakistan scales attached. But I'm not sure that all 3 of the
CATTARAUGUS stamped blades belong to that particular pocket knife. I have
no problems with it at all. A nice looking conversation piece.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:20 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Today I add this CAMILLUS 72 variation to my collection. It's another CRAFTSMAN, 3 blade, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, "whittler" pocket knife. It isn't stamped or marked with a pattern # (9494), but it is. I gave it a minor cleaning, took some pictures and here it is.