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Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:34 am
by Miller Bro's
On page 24 of this thread I posted this knife I have, made by Wostenholm , as far as I know, It has a different Design number maybe you could look this one up as well? RD 741343
Steve, posted the advertisement and said it was from the 1930's. I have included that in this post as well.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:02 pm
by wlf
You all are doing some fine research work. Detectives!! The

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:45 pm
by Ridgegrass
MB: Chart only gives one number so I can't say if it's first or last that year. I would guess last. Your number is 1928 or 1929. I did a search: "British Rd. numbers and dates" and used a Masonic link in that list. Starts with 1884 (#1) and goes through 1995.
That's a great knife too.
Are you a Miller Brothers collector? If so I have a question. Thanks. J.O'.
WLF: I worked in Science for 41 years, really enjoy digging stuff up.

.J.O'.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:07 pm
by DM11
Schrade Cut Co Grafting knife and a Schrade Cut Co Budding, Grafting knife.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:00 am
by DM11
New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:18 am
by Waukonda
DM11 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:00 am
New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.
2 good ones!

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:43 am
by DM11
Waukonda wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:18 am
DM11 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:00 am
New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.
2 good ones!
Thank you Ike.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:09 am
by doglegg
David, you are on a roll. Great knives.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:14 am
by DM11
doglegg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:09 am
David, you are on a roll. Great knives.
Thank you Floyd.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:34 am
by Mason
Enclosed are two more pocket pruners with secateurs. The left is marked Joseph Rodgers and while a bit different in form, it does have the same secateurs mechanism as Miller Bros' Wostenholm Amgar model. The model on the right is marked "Wade & Butcher" and is the same type as those shown by Ridgegrass and Miller Bros. Interesting to learn from Ridgegrass that the 715810 registration number dates to 1925. In searching through English cutlery patents from 1920 to 1930, it doesn't appears that either the Amgar (or J. Rodgers) or the variations with the 715810 numbers were ever actually patented. There are similar models to these though patented in the late 1800s and early 1900s by J. Watts in England.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:38 pm
by Ridgegrass
Mason, Great knives! You probably already know, and I found out when researching, the Brits have an "RD" number which is a 'Registered Design". The RD is not always patented. Different from our system.

I think I recall the other RD# (AMGAR?) was 1928-29. Lots of fun digging into those knives. J.O'.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:06 pm
by Miller Bro's
Two prime examples!

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:51 pm
by Mason
Thanks, Ridgegrass and Miller Bros.
I enjoy the information and discussions from you guys and others as much as the knives themselves.
Here is an English W. Saynor knife sitting on a horticulture book from England printed in 1898.
The same model with the same blade stamp is shown on the right page.
The English certainly produced some fine pruning knives.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:03 am
by DM11
Wow, that's cool!

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:11 am
by Miller Bro's
Very nice knife and a great book!
Here's one I recently picked up that looks just like the one in your book

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:44 pm
by Mason
Thanks DM11 and M.B.
That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:05 pm
by Miller Bro's
Mason wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:44 pm
That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.
Thank you
I like that billhead, it has some very interesting items shown

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:01 am
by Mason
Miller Bro's wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:05 pm
Mason wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:44 pm
That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.
Thank you
I like that billhead, it has some very interesting items shown
Thanks, the ephemera and other related items are certainly harder to find than the knives themselves, as you well know.
And you have some great miscellanea.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:30 pm
by galvanic1882
Very nice knives, MB and Mason. Here are 2 I just picked up. Etched Cattaraugus, first one I’ve ever seen and a F.A. Wolff with GARANTIE under the name. Probably German
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 2:15 am
by Ridgegrass
Mason: Say "ello" to your first cousin. 4-5/8, Integral, filed and rat-tailed bolsters. Blade stamped SAYNOR, tang stamped "Sheffield, England", reverse tang stamped, "SAYNOR & COOKE & RIDAL" H.Price says c.1840-1868. One of my favorites. Wish the old boy could talk.

J.O'.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 2:21 am
by Ridgegrass
Galvanic: That Catt is right out of the catalog. I'm a Catt guy and a Hawkbill collector so that one shakes all my trees! Lucky you.

J.O'.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 2:40 am
by Ridgegrass
Something to ponder: If the cutler who made our Saynors Hawks was 30 years old in 1868 when they went out of business, he'd be 183 years old today. Fun to think about that when you're holding that knife. What a true connection to the past! J.O'.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 5:05 pm
by DM11
Good ones Galvanic1882 and Ridgegrass!

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 5:56 pm
by DM11
Queen City and a Queen
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 7:12 pm
by DM11
Van Camp Hardware, Schrade Cut Co, Utica
Union Cut Co