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Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:25 pm
by kootenay joe
Here is one of the most appealing pen knives that i have. It is quite plain but well made and almost elegant with the very black ebony handles that are nicely rounded to give some 'body' to the knife. 2 3/4", both blades marked "James/Dewsnap/Sheffield" noted in Goins with dates 1850-1875.
kj
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:32 pm
by doglegg
Very classy old knife Roland.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:19 pm
by BWT
Very nice Roland,thanks for sharing it

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:33 pm
by kootenay joe
Thanks for your kind words. What makes a knife 'special' is not just the looks. It is just as much the in hand feel and sensation imparted by blades as you open and close them. However we cannot share 'feel' over the internet, yet.
kj
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:42 pm
by galvanic1882
Sweet knife Roland!!

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:01 am
by deo-pa
As best I can tell Roland this is the first mention on AAPK of this tang stamp, though there is one other knife with a "J. Dewsnap" tang stamp. I wonder what the relationship was, if any, among these two marks?
Dennis
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:32 am
by Waukonda
That is a dandy! I can easily imagine, that it does have a "great feel", beautiful wood as well.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:16 am
by kootenay joe
Goins lists an "Enos Dewsnap" and gives the same dates 1850-1875.
Most likely "J. Dewsnap" is the same person as "James Dewsnap" as long as the "J. Dewsnap" knife looks to be from the same time period.
kj
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:36 am
by JAMESC41001
Beautiful Knife Roland. Ebony is outstanding.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:43 am
by wlf
Very pocket easy and symmetrical Roland.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:26 pm
by danno50
Lovely old pen knife, Roland!

Tweedale has 7 listings for Dewsnap: Dewsnap Brothers, two Charles Dewsnap, Enos Luke Dewsnap, James Dewsnap Ltd, John Dewsnap & Son, and Simeon Dewsnap. James, Enos and Simeon were brothers. Tweedale says that James Dewsnap was a maker of cabinet cases for cutlery, jewellery, travelling dressing and razor cases. Tweedale quotes Goins for documentation that the Dewsnap name was used on cutlery. In the 1850s James and John formed Dewsnap Brothers. In 1875 James registered a silver mark. James Dewsnap died on Sept 11, 1881. The firm became limited in 1895 and was liquidated in 1941.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:21 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
I believe that this knife qualifies for this topic, a FORGED USA pocket knife. FORGED USA was one of Sears Roebuck & Company's trademark names and was made for them by the Camillus Cutlery Company.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:55 am
by Old Folder
Here's a "Tear-drop" swell-end jack.
Bridge Cutlery Co. (Shapleigh Hdw.) St. Louis MO c1902-1931.
According to Bernard Levine's third edition: "It was made in just about every imaginable handle material, including dozens of varieties of multi-colored celluloid. The pattern is pretty much out of production now."
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:00 am
by wiseguy
Great thread! Here’s one you won’t see every day, Bunting Cast steel. I’m not quite sure when it dates but would guess Pre 1850
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:19 am
by kootenay joe
Beautiful Bunting ! Most attractive stag handles. Looks like it once had a swing guard. Shield looks quite thick & a little proud, unusual shield..
Levine list a Bunting Hardware, Kansas City about 1922. And 3 "Bunting" knife makers in Sheffield 1825-1883.
Did USA made knives have "Cast Steel" marking ? Or only British knives ?
kj
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:10 am
by galvanic1882
That’s an English switchblade
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:33 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
I agree. It’s an automatic. The hole in the tang is part of its locking mechanism. It’s on the wrong side to have been for folding guards.
Charlie
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:14 pm
by BWT
Old Folder wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:55 am
Here's a "Tear-drop" swell-end jack.
Bridge Cutlery Co. (Shapleigh Hdw.) St. Louis MO c1902-1931.
According to Bernard Levine's third edition: "It was made in just about every imaginable handle material, including dozens of varieties of multi-colored celluloid. The pattern is pretty much out of production now."
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Very nice Dan!!
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:17 pm
by BWT
wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:00 am
Great thread! Here’s one you won’t see every day, Bunting Cast steel. I’m not quite sure when it dates but would guess Pre 1850
I checked Goins and it says 1837-1868,very nice

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:25 pm
by wiseguy
kootenay joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:19 am
Beautiful Bunting ! Most attractive stag handles. Looks like it once had a swing guard. Shield looks quite thick & a little proud, unusual shield..
Levine list a Bunting Hardware, Kansas City about 1922. And 3 "Bunting" knife makers in Sheffield 1825-1883.
Did USA made knives have "Cast Steel" marking ? Or only British knives ?
kj
Made in Sheffield England, it`s an automatic Cir.1850 … the shield is the release button and the hole in the tang is to lock it closed. it has a lockback design once opened
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:07 pm
by kootenay joe
Why not post what you know about a knife along with the picture ? Having text and picture in the same post helps those who use AAPK as a source for information.
Switchblades are the least known of folding knives. Most knife collectors do not have any switchblades and know little about them.
Reading that this Bunting knife is an 'automatic' got me to read the entire first chapter, "England", in "Art of the Switchblade" by Neal Punchard and Dan Fuller. It is a stellar book, both text and pictures.
It would be fun to have a 'guessing' forum in which obscure knives are posted without any description and people are invited to post their guesses as to nature & origin of the knife.
kj
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:27 pm
by wiseguy
kootenay joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:07 pm
Why not post what you know about a knife along with the picture ? Having text and picture in the same post helps those who use AAPK as a source for information.
kj
Because that little bit of info was brought to my attention after my initial post on the knife ….. thanks for taking a look guys !
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:40 pm
by kootenay joe
Thanks for explaining that. It is an incredible 'find', in excellent condition with the best stag ever and about 150-175 years old. Amazing. And to top it off even more, it is a switchblade, perhaps the most collectible of all patterns. So far I have never come across any knife that even remotely compares.
kj
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:14 pm
by wiseguy
Glad you like it Kj... I was having dinner with Neal Punchard at OKCA show Eugene Oregon the year he put out that book you mentioned, very informative book and a nice fellow.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:48 am
by Old Folder
BWT wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:14 pm
Old Folder wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:55 am
Here's a "Tear-drop" swell-end jack.
Bridge Cutlery Co. (Shapleigh Hdw.) St. Louis MO c1902-1931.
According to Bernard Levine's third edition: "It was made in just about every imaginable handle material, including dozens of varieties of multi-colored celluloid. The pattern is pretty much out of production now."
IMG_0008 (1).JPGIMG_0006 (2).JPGIMG_0007 (2).JPG
Very nice Dan!!
Thank you Bill.
