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Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:35 pm
by wlf
Tim ,I always enjoy someone getting to add to their passion.You have an amazing collection. I have a couple of the stag Anglo Saxon whittlers.The one I like most has the ringed bolsters,like the one you posted.I think you dated these in a thread somewhere.
What's even nicer is when a friend gives you a nice one that you don't have ,as David Anthony did to me.Thanks again David,till.....
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:24 pm
by IMBand
basser5 wrote:Here is a 1997 Robert Klaas Monolith with Ambonia wood handles.
Gorgeous knife! WOWZER!!
IM

Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:51 pm
by basser5
Thanks for the kind words fellas
She was worth the wait!
Post those whittlers over here Lyle, i would love seeing them again.
Tim
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:26 pm
by PigSticker
Does anyone have the link on how these knives are dated-I've got a R. Klaas two blade jack and my son has if I remember rite a pearl whittler--he's had the pearl knife since he was around 7 or 8 one of the first he ever bought
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:01 pm
by basser5
PigSticker wrote:Does anyone have the link on how these knives are dated-I've got a R. Klaas two blade jack and my son has if I remember rite a pearl whittler--he's had the pearl knife since he was around 7 or 8 one of the first he ever bought
To my knowledge or lack of it, there is no link for dating Klaas knives.
The only ones that can be dated to the year are club knives, special runs and knives
made between 1972 and 1986 (Roman numeral stamp). Others can be guestimated
by arch stamp, straight stamp, KC prefix and the size of the birds on the stamp.
Older ones will include stamps from Prussia, Solingen, and Ohligs.
Tim
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:56 pm
by basser5
Here is a nice pre 1972 Klaas congress.
All four blades have crisp half stops!
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:43 am
by junebug
TOP NOTCH ,BRO
gotta love 1/2 stops,stag,and a COOL bar shield

Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:02 am
by basser5
Thanks Josh

Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:30 pm
by keithw
Hey guys,
I've just bought a knife off eBay that looks like a similar pattern to s-k's and basser5's postings.
The small blade is only stamped "SOLINGEN", and there's no stamping on the main blade.
It looks and feels like an older knife.
Any ideas if it was a Klass knife, or maybe the main blade has been replaced?
It seems original to me, but I'm no expert.
Thoughts and comments appreciated.
Thanks!
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:59 pm
by basser5
Keith... that is a fairly common pattern in Germany and made by a lot
of different makers. It's called a allemand pattern or vinyardmans knife.
All of my Klaas knives are stamped as such. I think it will be tough to
narrow down the maker. Sorry i can't help more.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:56 pm
by daddynewton
I took a gamble on ebay a while back. Seller couldn't read the tang and the pictures or picture was so poor I could barely make out a knife. For 5 bucks I was pleased when I cleaned it up a bit. I have wanted to get a new Robert Klaas but have been afraid of getting stuck with a Chinese model. Does the "since 1834" still indicate a Chinese model and the rest are Germany models? Tim that is an impressive collection you showed in this thread, thanks for showing.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:38 am
by basser5

You did very well for $5
Your knife is a Crane brand by Klaas established 1913. Both birds facing forward with two legs each.
It is
very rare to see an older one like yours......Congrats!
Yes it still holds true that China made knives are stamped "Since 1834"
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:01 am
by daddynewton
Thanks Tim , that is great news.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:09 am
by basser5
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:18 pm
by basser5
A couple more.............
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:02 pm
by Alfred Oldham
These are some really nice knives. I have a post on the European and Other Foreign Manufactured Knives asking for info on the knife I have pics for. I have not found anything about any knives like the one I have. Can any of the Robert Klaas expert collectors give me any info. I was going to move my post here but wasn't sure how to do it. The knife has been put up since '97 until a few months ago when I started trying to get some info.
I also have a J. Moede that I am going to try to post on German Knife Forum, I think I can use Google translate to post some questions and put some pics on their forum. If it works I may put the pics of my Robert Klass KC on the site.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:35 pm
by Capt. Farrel
The results of a Google translation are often quite funny. Let me know if can help out with the translation, I am a native German speaker.

Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:33 pm
by Alfred Oldham
Thanks, I didn't have time last night. I did type a few lines on notepad and copied and pasted it on google translate. I gave me a german translation, but I don't know if it was correct. I have copied some text from a german forum and got a translation, but it was hard to understand some of it. Kind of mixed up. I will let you know what I find out.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:02 pm
by Capt. Farrel
Computers becoming more clever every day but a working translation program hasn´t been invented yet. I believe Japanese is one of the worst languages to translate with Google but German can be problematic too. Just drop me a line if I can be of help.

Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:28 pm
by Alfred Oldham
I did try a German knife forum site.
http://www.messerforum.net/showthre...
I filled in the registration and it had a random question to answer. It was in German, so I translated it and found the answer, but it said it was incorrect. After a few times I stopped and left the site. I may try again and make sure I read everything carefully. Thanks for the help.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:07 pm
by Capt. Farrel
I´ve just checked the Messerforum:
1. usernname
2. password
3. repeat password
4. email address
5. repeat email address
6. This one is difficult: random question. My question was for the German "blade city", so the answer would be "Solingen".
The last thing to do is to tick the box on the bottom of the site: "Unsere Regeln" This is the usual "I have understood the rules and regulations..."
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:10 pm
by basser5
If you are going to post on Messerforums, you might as well e-mail Klaas direct. They answer all the
Kissing Crane questions anyway.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:43 pm
by Alfred Oldham
Capt. Farrel, I didn't try again. We are getting ready to go on vacation so I have been busy. The random question I had was the first German chancellor (after 1949). I answered Konrad Adenhaur and it said that was incorrect. I will try after we get back next week.
Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:57 am
by Capt. Farrel

Those guys over at the Messerforum seems to be a pretty intellectual bunch! You better know your history book joining them.

. Never mind Alfred, enjoy your holidays! First German chancellor is correct but misspelled. It would have been "Konrad Adenauer".

Re: GERMAN ROBERT KLAAS BRANDS
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:03 am
by Alfred Oldham
Thanks, I checked my notes where I did the research and I spelled it right on paper but not when I typed it on the registration.
I e-mailed Robert Klaas and got a reply. They only said the knife was made for decades in their "classic line" but could not date it. Nothing was said about the use of 440c steel. I read where Buck used 440c starting in '81.
I will try to register again when I get back and check my spelling.