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Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:12 am
by Miller Bro's
Thanks guys

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:36 am
by RobesonsRme.com
Very nice Dimitri.
Don't you just love that bone?
One backspring or two?
Not very many manufacturers made a swell-center toe and as far as I know, only Robeson made them with two springs.
Charlie Noyes
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:35 am
by Miller Bro's
Thanks Charlie.
You really can`t beat the old Robeson jigged bone, the worm grooves make it all the better.
This knife has two springs

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:42 pm
by bonehead
MB, is that one from Scott Kings auction? I know he had two that were the swell center design with double back springs. I bid on the darker one but it went for more than I could do.
That is truly a nice sunfish and a special one at that, congrats

BH
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:59 pm
by Miller Bro's
bonehead wrote:MB, is that one from Scott Kings auction?
No, I found this one locally.
bonehead wrote:That is truly a nice sunfish and a special one at that, congrats
Thank you

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:34 pm
by Miller Bro's
Here it is with the blades closed.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:47 pm
by galvanic1882
Here is a Robeson I picked up not long ago. Has the 2 backsprings.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:55 pm
by wlf
I went through this thread last night ,beautiful and great examples all. Congratulations Dimitri and Mike, you guys ,along with some others have great collections.
Roger and Roger and Charlie ,etc.I guess that's why we are here,we all like our knives.

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:30 am
by Beechtree
Wow, fantastic Dimitri. That bone on that is stunning!
Mike, what and rare, great knife. The blades are full and two backsprings to boot! nice
One day, one day, (I hope) an old elephant toenail will fill my hand

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:42 pm
by Miller Bro's
Thanks

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:38 am
by b1k3hobo
I've become really enamored with this design, even though my only personal example is a Chinese Marble's sunfish. When I start moving into making some of my own slipjoints, I'd definitely like to try this pattern- and I'd be building for rugged use foremost.
Fellows, on your worn or used up Sunfish and Toenails, what if any defects are most notable? lateral or vertical blade play? Worn end pins, or tired springs?
Does anyone have notable use-stories on the worn ones? So far the only modern semi-verifiable use case I've heard is a traditional-method barn framer, using one to tweak the fit on mortise and tenon joints-
The colorful adjectives I see in period catalogs and ephemera by the manufacturers, call these things 'vest pocket axes' or folding cleavers- which seems wildly abusive. Do you have any examples that shows wear from this type of use?
What pops into my mind when I look and use mine, is 'folding nessmuk' that said, the smaller spear point blade is showing itself to be surprisingly good at whittling. The big flat handle provides lots of leverage for torquing cuts though... perception versus practice?
I may torture test a RoughRider/Marbles to see what can be learned from one of these, but I'm curious as to what the authentic period blades can give testament to.
Thanks, and lovely examples all!

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:21 am
by galvanic1882
Here are 3 Catt's and a Chattlion
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:44 pm
by jerryd6818
I think Tommy would enjoy seeing his posted here.
THESE BELONG TO CARRMILLUS.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:21 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
I think Levine described these as electrician's knives, as well.
They have also been described as rope knives, to be driven through a rope using a wood mallet.
Would probably split kindling if used in a like manner.
Michael, those are simply superb.
Charlie
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:45 am
by wlf
That bottom Cat is my choice Mike,but the Chantillion is exquisite.
The blades on that bottom Cat are absolutely grrrrrrrreat.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:32 pm
by dcgm4
Wow!

There are some gorgeous knives being shown in this thread!

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:51 pm
by Miller Bro's
I agree, beautiful additions

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:06 am
by thegreedygulo
H. Boker & Co.'s Improved Cutlery.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:54 pm
by peanut740
Roger that is a hard toenail to find.I have one that is well worn.Now if you could find one with a big Tree Brand etch............

Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:11 pm
by thegreedygulo
Thanks Roger..............and believe me, I've been looking a LONG time for one with an etch. Only seen etched ones in old catalogs so far.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:56 pm
by edge213
Your Boker sunfish is outstanding. I don't recall ever seeing one.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:03 pm
by peanut740
I have a Valley Forge with an etch that someone badly re-profiled the master blade.It is the basically the same as a Boker.Roger would they have been made in the same factory?
For those that don't know the Boker and Valley Forge toenails are the smallest old toes at 3 7/8".
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:27 pm
by thegreedygulo
Thanks edge213; glad you liked it.
Roger: No way to say for sure, but I would say there is a high probability they could have been.
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:21 pm
by Miller Bro's
Etch or not that's a good looking knife!
Re: Old Elephant Toenails/Sunfish Pattern Knives
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:24 pm
by philco
Roger you're putting on an impressive show with today's posts. That e toe is really nice.
