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Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:58 pm
by orvet
It has been way too long since anyone posted to this topic.
I picked this up last week off ebay. I had to clean off the rust, but even in the pics I could tell what it was.
High Carbon Steel was a trademark used by Camillus on knives made for Sears, c. 1927-1940, (per Goins). Often they were etched “Sta-Sharp,” though any last vestige of etch was long ago removed by the rust on the blade. It does have shallow pitting on the blades, but the bone is near perfect! There is little snap to the main blade as the tang of the blade is worn down. I realize this will never be worth a bundle, so it just may get some pocket time.
It sure has nice carbon steel!
I want to find more of these!!!!

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:25 am
by travman
Great knife Dale
Those carbon blades take a real nice edge to em
I like those bone scales also
Trav
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:58 am
by orvet
Here is one I got at the OKCA show last weekend.
It has the 4 line tang stamp, ant the most unique scales I have seen on a Camillus.
It looks like snakeskin, but the handles are smooth.
I suppose they are celluloid, though I see no evidence of shrinking.
Even though the clip blade is about ¼” short, it was just too cool to leave on someone else’s table!
Does anyone else have a Camillus with scales like this one?
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:03 am
by zed6309
orvet wrote:Here is one I got at the OKCA show last weekend.
It has the 4 line tang stamp, ant the most unique scales I have seen on a Camillus.
It looks like snakeskin, but the handles are smooth.
I suppose they are celluloid, though I see no evidence of shrinking.
Even though the clip blade is about ¼” short, it was just too cool to leave on someone else’s table!
Does anyone else have a Camillus with scales like this one?
orvet those scales are amazing, they look like fish scales

nice knife,
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:57 pm
by kamagong
I guess this qualifies.

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:34 pm
by ibele-finley
Here's a nice old Camillus. Main Blade has old Sword Brand stamp with crossed swords; secondary has the old four line Camillus stamp. I don't know what the scales are; don't see many red ones. Being generic, "some kinda plastic," maybe celuloid? Maybe one of you will know. Would y'all call this a Stockman? I was uncertain with the awl.

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Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:01 am
by travman
Nice knife you got there

ibele-finley
Looks to be in nice condition for the age of it
I believe what you have there is a
Camillus Sword Brand cattle knife
#3031 with RED PYROLIN scales
3-5/8" long clip,spey and punch blades
You can find the info in the collectors of Camillus site
look under the sword brands at the bottom of the Camillus catalogs page
Trav
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:53 pm
by ibele-finley
Travman, you nailed it. Thanks. Now if I can figure out what the hell pyrolin is.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:01 pm
by Mossdancer
Here is an old easy open jack I picked up yesterday. Pretty nice other than the bail missing.
moss
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:48 pm
by tjmurphy
Moss, that is sweet. Love the EO Jacks, especially with that nice old bone

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:32 am
by orvet
Nice one Moss!
I like the bone, but I have not seen bone quite like that on those old jacks.
I wonder if it has been rehandled? Can you tell?
What makes me wonder is that from the pics it appears the color does not go real deep into the bone.
Still in all, it is nice knife. I really like the bone.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:28 pm
by Ramrod
That is some different lookin bone... I like it...
Looks like someone put some notches along the back of the handles... wonder what they were for....
Mark
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:00 pm
by Mossdancer
All:
Thanks, orvet: maybe during rehandle the hackle was lost. Ramrod:I think that which looks to be notches are just a continuation of the jigging pattern.
moss
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:45 pm
by Miller Bro's
Ramrod wrote:That is some different lookin bone.
The jigged bone handles are original on that knife.
Ramrod wrote:Looks like someone put some notches along the back of the handles... wonder what they were for...
A lot of GI`s had time to do this to their personal pocket knives, and it would identify it as their knife if it turned up in someone else`s hands

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:58 pm
by WelderBob
I'm guessing this one was made back when...how far back I'm not sure. One piece iron liners and bolsters...4 5/8" closed.
Has a faint Sword Brand etch on the blade...I have seen a Ulster with similar locking mechanism. Has great snap and tight lockup.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:18 pm
by Miller Bro's
Very nice Bob

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:43 pm
by gringo
nice looking knife
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:48 pm
by Mossdancer
Hi Charlie;
Just thought I would offer these three different patterns together. An opinion needed. Were I to fashion a bail for the easy open. How much closer to the handle should it be than the Electricians.
moss
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:14 pm
by Miller Bro's
WB,
It should look like this
I have a spare bail if you want to keep the knife original

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:26 pm
by orvet
Moss,
I have an extra bail also.
I can send it out to you and a pin with a head on one end so you only have to worry about putting a head on one end of the pin.
Let me know if you want it.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:51 pm
by Mossdancer
This is what makes this the best forum possible, The knife that is being used for a prop is a nice old Challenge. pretty cool cel and knife for not being a Camillus. Thank You Demitri for the bail and pin. Received it less than an hour ago.
moss
edit: Thanks for the offer Dale.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:21 am
by Miller Bro's
WB,
Your welcome!
Glad it worked out for you, the knife looks complete now
I really like the handles on that old Challenge knife

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:29 am
by jerryd6818
Moss, the handles on that old EO are real eye candy for me and you did right by putting a bail back on it. Dimitri is right. It now looks complete. It's an aah moment.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:06 pm
by Badger
Here's mine. I'm a new collector but this one is a WWII I got today. Any info would be great. Pressed into the handle is R41-K-455 I assume this is an issue number of some sort
And here is my Roy Rogers

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:18 am
by Mossdancer
Badger:
I do believe that handle mark is a Cam. marking for military. No idea when though. Do you have any confirmation of WWII. It's not that I doubt what you were told, but substantiation is another story. By itself it may be rather rare and it is in nice condition. The ad knife is nice also.
moss
edit: I just found an article that states the mark on a wood handle would be correct with a 46 to 56 Tang Stamp. The year makes no difference it is still a darn fine example, always nice to see something new.
moss