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Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:28 am
by orvet
Miller Bro`s wrote:orvet wrote:It seems these blades are much different in design than the blade in Willie’s knife.
Willie`s knife?
Sorry Dimitri, I got up early to make my wife's lunch.
Got to keep her happy!

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:10 pm
by Miller Bro's
Here is another unusual old knife.
This one is from my friend Ellis, I am posting the pictures of his knife. It is an old Cattaraugus pencil/knife model P1. It appears that these were made in several different colors. The one I have is a mottled Green. This one is a Blue and Red mixture. He has also seen one that is all Black. These were probably made to match the fountain pen colors of the day.
This example is in like new condition seems to have never been used
Ellis has been researching these for some time now and has more interesting information on them that I will post shortly.
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:59 pm
by paulsvintage
that is cool. even got a tiny swedge like most old catts.

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:56 am
by Miller Bro's
More info on this Catt from Ellis:
The color of the pencil knife, grey w/ red veins, is extremely specific to fountain pens of its era. Shaeffer's fountain pens had a pen called the Balance Lifetime pen and pencil, which is the only pen of many manufacturers that exactly matches this plastic pattern. Shaeffer's always purchased all of the stock from the one plastic manufacturer (celluloid to be more specific) of this pattern, because the manufacturer would not give an exclusive to Shaeffer's. So other pen companies have similar patterns, but only Shaeffer's is an exact pattern match.
Here is the patent:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=IA5aAA ... &q&f=false
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:07 pm
by Miller Bro's
And here is the original catalog cut................
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:19 am
by Miller Bro's
This is my Bowen Concealed dagger belt knife..............
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:55 am
by jerryd6818
Miller Bro`s wrote: Dale, I doubt this is some type of comb. Here is another picture that shows it`s true size.
It is hard to see from the first picture I posted, it is tiny.
Ray is on the right track, it is some kind of medical instrument, I just don`t know exactly what it was used for, yet

Or? Could it be a leather working knife for small things like purses and wallets? The blade to cut the leather to pattern and the fork end to mark and prepunch for sewing?? Hey, one more guess isn't going to sink the boat.
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:21 pm
by Miller Bro's
Jerry,
I don`t know much about leather working, but I think this thing is too delicate for that kind of work

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:14 am
by jerryd6818
Miller Bro`s wrote:Jerry,
I don`t know much about leather working, but I think this thing is too delicate for that kind of work

Maybe it's some kind of bleeder knife.

Keep guessing and we're bound to get close sooner or later.

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:05 pm
by PA Knives
Dimitri
Given the types of utensils and the fact it is a metal body, perhaps it is a surgical instrument?
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:31 am
by Jacknifeben
Here are my P1 CATTARAUGUS lead pencil--knives. All 3 are different, 2 have a nail file for the second blade and 1 has a pen blade. The one with the pen blade has a different pocket clip and is all 1 piece. All 3 have names or advertising, E.H. HAMEL LEATHER CO. GLAZED KID--LAMBSKINS, SAM MILLER, and C.E.LEPORGE. All are tang stamped CATTARAUGUS STAINLESS. All 3 are different lengths with the brown one being the shortest.
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:15 pm
by johnnierotten
I have a newer pen knife made by Case XX...

....also an old brass gravity knife and a J.A.Henckels trick knife.

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:47 pm
by Miller Bro's
Nice ones J
I like the Case XX, can you still buy them?
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:26 pm
by johnnierotten
Thanks Dimitri.

......I'm not for sure if you can still buy them or not..

....I got mine from HHKnives here at AAPK.

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:07 am
by IMBand
Had this around for years, local guy sells them at the craft fair.
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:03 am
by johnnierotten
That’s

, Trevor.

...I like that.

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:48 pm
by IMBand
Thanks JR!!
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:52 pm
by paulsvintage
i had found one peacock knife . Dimitri had posted another one . head looks like carved ivory. still very unusual knife
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:58 pm
by johnnierotten
Cool knife,Paul.

....very unusual.

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:51 am
by Miller Bro's
Nice find Paul

Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:24 am
by paulsvintage
Miller Bro`s wrote:Nice find Paul

thanks, Guys
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:59 pm
by gino
That is one strange bird! LOL
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:41 pm
by Joe Dirt
That's one unique bird Paul.
How do you catch a unique bird?
How do you catch a tame bird?
Here's one like MB posted earlier in this thread.
This one is stamped Stainless Japan and the handles are made from molded aluminum.
...... Joe
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:56 pm
by jerryd6818
How do you catch a unique bird?
Unique up on him.
How do you catch a tame bird?
Tame way.
Haven't seen much of you lately, Joe. Where ya been?
Re: Old Unusual Novelty Knives And Secret Knives
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:13 pm
by Miller Bro's
I like it Joe

It seems to be of better quality than the one I posted
