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Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 2:24 am
by Bfeldman
Here’s a few knives that fit the bill. The black handled one is a thiers-issard and the brown handled one is from m Klein and sons.
But the one I’m curious if anyone has any ideas about is the last one. No stamp, a very interesting locking mechanism and the guy who sold it to me gave me some story about it being made out of a railroad spike by a guy in Mexico but as I’m not sure I buy it.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 2:31 am
by doglegg
Three cool ones Bfeldman. That guy in Mexico must have been a real craftsman as that is a cool knife.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 1:55 pm
by Bfeldman
doglegg wrote:Three cool ones Bfeldman. That guy in Mexico must have been a real craftsman as that is a cool knife.

Thanks. I’ve never seen a locking mechanism like this one.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 3:10 pm
by LongBlade
I like the French 2 blade Hawkbill

.. though I think it was repinned at some point. The knife noted as Mexican looks like a Spanish Billhook folder - not sure about Mexico... maybe

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Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:26 am
by Bfeldman
LongBlade wrote:I like the French 2 blade Hawkbill

.. though I think it was repinned at some point. The knife noted as Mexican looks like a Spanish Billhook folder - not sure about Mexico... maybe

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Good eye. It definitely looks like it was reprinted which is interesting because it doesn’t show a ton of wear otherwise.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:31 am
by Eustace
I am glad when I find old Bulgarian knives in such a condition.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:16 pm
by LongBlade
Nice set of knives Eustace

... A pruner and budding grafting knife as a pair is very cool

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Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:08 am
by royal0014
Very nice set, Eustace
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:43 am
by kootenay joe
Some fine very old knives being posted. Lee's Billhook is a fine survivor, could easily be a 200 yr old knife.
Here is one i just fopund in my basement. I put it there some years ago because the blade looks rusted beyond saving. But today it spoke to me so i took some pictures. "H & J.W. King Warranted 1869". King was an importer so this might have come from Germany. Liners & bolsters are integral. Note the big swell of handle towards the butt. Snaps are all very crisp, has a half stop and no play, solid in open position. Pretty good for 150 years old.
Any advice on getting the 'scale' off the blade ?
kj
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:47 am
by doglegg
Eustace wrote:I am glad when I find old Bulgarian knives in such a condition.
Eustace, I somehow missed these until now. Great condition! Proud for you.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:06 pm
by LongBlade
kootenay joe wrote:Some fine very old knives being posted. Lee's Billhook is a fine survivor, could easily be a 200 yr old knife.
Here is one i just fopund in my basement. I put it there some years ago because the blade looks rusted beyond saving. But today it spoke to me so i took some pictures. "H & J.W. King Warranted 1869". King was an importer so this might have come from Germany. Liners & bolsters are integral. Note the big swell of handle towards the butt. Snaps are all very crisp, has a half stop and no play, solid in open position. Pretty good for 150 years old.
Any advice on getting the 'scale' off the blade ?
kj
Thanks for comment on Billhook - it is an oldie - some followup research indicates to me 1850 or later and most likely Italian in origin... though probably somehow imported and used here in the Northeast based on where and how it was found...
KJ - That is an old pruner for sure

- I know you mention possibly Germany but I wouldn’t know - I haven’t seen too many German made Hawkbills but not ones I would collect ... I’m not familiar with that stamp at all...
but in terms of cleaning that knife it is pretty far gone.. looks to be very deep pitting and corrosion - I think buffing it to death may not even work

... personally I rather see it like this than a shiny and lousy facsimile of a knife!
I’m still sticking to pre-1860 for integrated liners/bolsters as I still have not seen many later examples and certainly none after 1900 despite that conjecture in another thread ....
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:33 pm
by kootenay joe
I think this one has integral liners/bolsters and it was made in 1869. Goins has some info on this brand.
I was not thinking of buffing, more like rubbing or flicking off the superficial scale that covers both blade surfaces.
kj
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:29 pm
by Robo
I made a separate post about this old Keen Kutter K136 pruner in "Knife Q&A" but I fiqured I'd run some photos of it here amongst these other great pruning and Horticultural knives. Enjoy!
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:07 pm
by LongBlade
Great looking Hawkbill Robo

... the etch on a Hawkbill is very cool and not something often seen

... Thanks for sharing it in this thread!!
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:10 am
by Robo
LongBlade wrote:Great looking Hawkbill Robo

... the etch on a Hawkbill is very cool and not something often seen

... Thanks for sharing it in this thread!!
My Pleasure, Lee!
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:21 pm
by Eustace
My friend send me this pictures. Has anyone seen something like this?
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:56 pm
by LongBlade
Very interesting knife Eustace

... I can’t tell from photos but is that a spud used to graft on the back end of knife or is it just an extension of the handle? Not sure from where it originated but looks European in style...
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:03 pm
by Eustace
I'm almost sure it's French. The stamp is "aparie" or "aparis"
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:09 pm
by LongBlade
I believe your correct Eustace as the stamp appears French

- I didn’t pay attention to the stamp

... looks like a folding billhook (aka pruner) that has the handle open from a folding extension... pretty cool

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Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:46 pm
by kootenay joe
Does it have 1 blade and 2 springs ?
Does the handle extension fold closed when blade is open to keep blade locked open ?
"Aparie" makes me think of bee keeping.
Never seen anything like it.
kj
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:56 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Hi. I enlarged the stamp/mark in your last photo. The last 2 "figures" look like numbers, not letters. Maybe a 15 and not is or ir?
Just an observation.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:14 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
My GEO. SCHRADE pruner.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:03 am
by RobesonsRme.com
I knew a man from Mexico named, "Aparis".
So, I suppose your knife could be Spanish.
Charlie
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:49 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
My latest pruner, this Geo Schrade. It's almost identical to the one I posted above, except the advertising is engraved/stamped into the blade, not etched on the blade like the previous knife. The tang stamps are different also.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:14 pm
by FRJ
American Knife Co,. Thomaston. 1875-1895 - 4 3/8" closed.
It has earned all it's scars.
The same can be said for its neighbor, one town over, American Knife Co., Plymouth. 1849-1875 - 4 3/8" closed.
Great old Connecticut knives and stamps.
There is an interesting bit of history in Goin's encyclopedia about these two companies and the towns themselves,
including Northfield Knife Co.
I live in Plymouth.
Thanks for looking.