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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:11 am
by ken98k
Paladin wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:14 am
ken98k wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:35 pm
RedRaiderRick wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:57 pm Qualified annually with +P ammo in my mod 60 for 2 decades. Sucker would get so hot you couldn't touch it but no damage.
Isn't a model 60 a 357 mag?
Not this one. It is clearly marked as a 38. I suspect there is a 357mag version. This one was made from 1969 to, or thru, 1972 according to a book I found at the show today.

Ray
::tu:: :D

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:22 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
Quick Steel wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:03 pm Ray, for several weeks I have been looking for a snubbie with hammer for daily carry. You found it. But I am inspired to keep looking.
Beside hammer and hammerless, there is another option like this 638-3, 38 Spl +P. It is the best of both worlds, has a hammer for those of us that want one, but the hammer is shrouded to prevent snagging on clothing when being drawn from concealment. This Airweight has an aluminum frame with stainless cylinder and barrel.
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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 4:47 pm
by RedRaiderRick
Here is my Model 60-3 purchased about 35 years ago and carried as my backup and off-duty weapon. I don't believe it's ever fired anything but +P ammo as that was dictated by department regs. Grip is Pachmeyer with grip extension which really improves shootability and helps control recoil of hot loads. Hammer was bobbed by dept armorer for snag-free draw from deep cover.
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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:48 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
For those of you who carry a snub 38, I have tried these factory loads in my S & W Airweight and they shoot very well. From left, Hornady Critical Defense Lite which is a 90gr high velocity load (not +P) with less recoil, Hornady Critical Defense +P 110gr, and Federal Punch +P 120gr HP. As you can see in the close up, both of the Hornady loads are the FTX bullet with polymer tip, the Federal has a large hollow jacketed soft point.
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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:41 pm
by royal0014
Be wary of those Hornady polymer tips in auto pistols ...
Bought some for my Ruger LC9 for a carry load. They absolutely would not feed. The poly tip would catch on the feed ramp, even after polishing the ramp. Not trying to knock them, presumably they feed in autos with less steep ramps
::shrug::


Someone mentioned a hammered .38 ..... here is my S/W 637 Airweight. +P rated
Supposed to be my fishing partner, only I haven't been since I bought the pistol !
::facepalm::
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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:02 am
by Quick Steel
Thank you all for the great snubbie input.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:47 am
by Boji
Being you all are showing off your little J frames, here is mine. 360j Airweight. It is chambered for .357mag but no thanks, won’t be doing that. Got it in a pawnshop in Prescott Valley, AZ. when I was on vacation a couple of years ago. With my FFL I was able to take it with me.
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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:40 am
by philco
Boji I really like the looks of that revolver. I'm with you on using 357 ammo in a light weight J frame. Too much recoil for me.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:56 am
by Boji
philco wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:40 am Boji I really like the looks of that revolver. I'm with you on using 357 ammo in a light weight J frame. Too much recoil for me.
It was the 1st J frame that I liked the "in hand feel" of the grips, and yes, they are factory.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:03 am
by treefarmer
Y'all showing these fine snub nosed revolvers, got me to thinking how much I miss carrying a wheel gun. I had an old S&W Victory model that had a short barrel, I think it had been modified (cut) and I carried it for years. Somehow, I ended up with some 9mm pistols and have been carrying them but I still like the reliability of a revolver considering the feeding problems and such that keep popping up in different forums and publications.
Almost got enough itch to go lookin' for one. ::hmm::
Treefarmer

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:51 am
by royal0014
Boji wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:56 am
It was the 1st J frame that I liked the "in hand feel" of the grips, and yes, they are factory.
Yeah, I'm with you on the 'hand feel' of the factory grips .
A tad short on the bottom end, but fits my small hands near perfect.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:50 pm
by 1967redrider
The thing I like about this little Harrington and Richardson .32 Long is the minimal recoil and it's quiet enough to fire without hearing protection in a pinch.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:28 pm
by Quick Steel
Boji, You have acquired the perfect snubbie for me because of that very decent grip.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:11 pm
by wlf
1967redrider wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:50 pm The thing I like about this little Harrington and Richardson .32 Long is the minimal recoil and it's quiet enough to fire without hearing protection in a pinch.
I've got the same one John, I bought it with several other pistols from a retiring policeman here in town.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:49 pm
by 1967redrider
wlf wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:11 pm
1967redrider wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:50 pm The thing I like about this little Harrington and Richardson .32 Long is the minimal recoil and it's quiet enough to fire without hearing protection in a pinch.
I've got the same one John, I bought it with several other pistols from a retiring policeman here in town.

Nice, Lyle. I have a shoulder holster and use it sometimes at the farm when hiking on the mountain as a bear warning device. 😉

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:48 pm
by RedRaiderRick
Speaking of +P ammo, the PD mandated carrying and qualifying with Remington R38S12 ammo only for 38spcl. It was a +P hollowpoint, unjacketed semiwadcutter. Crazy heat and recoil and would leave a ton of lead in the barrel. There was only one FFL in the DFW area that carried it and would only sell to Dallas PD.

If you can find some check it out. Tons of fun if you like that sort of thing. Which I do.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:27 am
by ken98k
Boji wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:47 am Being you all are showing off your little J frames, here is mine. 360j Airweight. It is chambered for .357mag but no thanks, won’t be doing that. Got it in a pawnshop in Prescott Valley, AZ. when I was on vacation a couple of years ago. With my FFL I was able to take it with me.
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::tu:: :D

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:30 am
by ken98k
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:22 pm
Quick Steel wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:03 pm Ray, for several weeks I have been looking for a snubbie with hammer for daily carry. You found it. But I am inspired to keep looking.
Beside hammer and hammerless, there is another option like this 638-3, 38 Spl +P. It is the best of both worlds, has a hammer for those of us that want one, but the hammer is shrouded to prevent snagging on clothing when being drawn from concealment. This Airweight has an aluminum frame with stainless cylinder and barrel.

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::tu:: :D
I always like the looks of those but, I was warned to use extra caution when cocking them as it's easy for the thumb to slip off the hammer.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:45 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
ken98k wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:30 am
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:22 pm
Quick Steel wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:03 pm Ray, for several weeks I have been looking for a snubbie with hammer for daily carry. You found it. But I am inspired to keep looking.
Beside hammer and hammerless, there is another option like this 638-3, 38 Spl +P. It is the best of both worlds, has a hammer for those of us that want one, but the hammer is shrouded to prevent snagging on clothing when being drawn from concealment. This Airweight has an aluminum frame with stainless cylinder and barrel.

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::tu:: :D
I always like the looks of those but, I was warned to use extra caution when cocking them as it's easy for the thumb to slip off the hammer.
The gun cannot fire under those conditions because of the hammer block safety, so not a problem.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:36 pm
by doglegg
My pocket riders.
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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:20 am
by ken98k
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:45 pm
ken98k wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:30 am
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:22 pm
Beside hammer and hammerless, there is another option like this 638-3, 38 Spl +P. It is the best of both worlds, has a hammer for those of us that want one, but the hammer is shrouded to prevent snagging on clothing when being drawn from concealment. This Airweight has an aluminum frame with stainless cylinder and barrel.

IMG_5529.JPG
IMG_5530.JPG
::tu:: :D
I always like the looks of those but, I was warned to use extra caution when cocking them as it's easy for the thumb to slip off the hammer.
The gun cannot fire under those conditions because of the hammer block safety, so not a problem.
Good to know! ::tu::

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:56 pm
by zp4ja
Very nice firearms shown recently and from the beginning of the OP! Love this thread.

Picked up this one awhile back. Just browsing but caught my eye as unusual but desirable.

SIG SAUER P938 SAS. For those whom are unaware, the acronym SAS in regards to SIG, stands for SIG Anti Snag System. I have owned one or two prior and they were dehorned, limited slide serrations, etc.

The new model, P938-9SAS2B as shown in my pictures below, had no external sights on the slide. The sights are the FT Bullseye, which stands for Fiber Tritium Bulleye. Grip likely Hogue and superb for my large hands. Rubber. Perfect firmness for extra grip.

Difficult to describe in words but feel to me is excellent 10 yard gun. Like a shotgun in aiming if used from quick defensive draw, more of a point not aim (like a shotgun), slide is the aim. Head and gun upper body movement in sync subsequent shot if utilizing FTB sight. Like I said, 10 yard gun for my intended use. Usually a backup anyway

YMMV as there are so many excellent makers/ models alternatives. Here is link. Not dog in this fight as far as promoting it. Just sharing ...


https://www.sigsauer.com/p938-sas2b-micro-compact.html

Take care, Jerry

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:14 pm
by 1967redrider
Awesome Sig, Jerry! ::nod::👍


Another American Rifleman article I thought you might enjoy. Click to expand.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:32 pm
by zp4ja
Awesome post John!

Personally, when Clint passes, will be a sad day for me. Love his attitude and work. Turned around Carmel for a bit as Mayor. Never used his fame to spew his politics as far as I know. Don't know him personally, but from what I know, a good man in my book.

Besides the phenomenal Westerns, Dirty Harry, Heartbreak Ridge, etc...

Gran Torino. Man after my own heart in that movie. Hard outside, soft inside. Both hard or soft, when applicable!

Jerry

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:23 pm
by 1967redrider
zp4ja wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:32 pm Awesome post John!

. . . Personally, when Clint passes, will be a sad day for me. . .

Jerry

Same here, Jerry, but what a life he has lived.