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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:04 am
by Papa Bones
Thought I would post this here. I do not have this knife and did not win it. I found the listing on this knife while doing a custom search for Swell Center Whittlers on Ebay on past auctions. I did not see it in any of the knives listed in this thread or on the list that I saw posted on AAPK of Camillus 72 Clones, so thought I would share it for reference.

It was listed as a Swell Center Whittler, 3-5/8" long made by ATOR. The Tang stamp has ATOR Solingen Germany. Below I will post the pictures of the knife and the sellers description. So I guess another to be on the look out for. One of the pictures also has the information I've been able to find on ATOR.

Sellers description
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Photos and info
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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:02 am
by doglegg
Interesting Papa Bones. Thanks for posting. ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:35 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:04 am Thought I would.....
VERY GOOD find Smitty! Thank you for alerting us to the existence of yet another, CAMILLUS 72 variation/clone. ::tu::
::handshake::
🍻

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:35 pm
by carrmillus
........how many more can there be???????................ :shock: ...................

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:26 pm
by doglegg
Tommy, there always seems to be just one more. ::dang::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:37 pm
by carrmillus
..if I could just have the one my grandpa carried(camillus,true, split spring,rogers bone) I would be happy as a pig in slop!!!!.......... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: .............

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:56 pm
by doglegg
Picked up a clone, a variation and an almost out of the bay. The Craftsman has an Imperial tang stamp making it a clone, the Moor Man's is a 72 Yello Jaket marked 72 but with a Moor Man's shield and the Rite Edge is almost a clone but.....
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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:58 pm
by doglegg
Rite Edge pics.
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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:10 pm
by carrmillus
.....all 3 of those are great finds!!!!........... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ...................................

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:28 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:56 pm Picked up.....
VERY nice acquisitions Floyd! ::tu::
I have the same, exact, Rite Edge. It too has the box. I removed it from my "72" variation collection because it actually has more of a stockman, "serpentine" shape to it than a "swelled center" shape. It also measures just slightly short of 3 5/8" closed.You can see the difference in the body shapes in your last picture of all three of the pocket knives. You can also feel the difference in the shapes. Run your finger along the handle of a swelled center. Your finger slowly goes up, hits the "swell" and then slowly goes down. Do the same thing to the Rite Edge, completely different feel. Just my opinion my friend.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:51 pm
by doglegg
I agree with your evaluation Skip. I meant to mention it is 1/8 inch shorter than the 72's but forgot to. Not a clone but a 2nd cousin. :roll: ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:01 am
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:51 pm I agree.....
A VERY DISTANT 2nd cousin. ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:20 pm
by Papa Bones
doglegg wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:56 pm Picked up a clone, a variation and an almost out of the bay. The Craftsman has an Imperial tang stamp making it a clone, the Moor Man's is a 72 Yello Jaket marked 72 but with a Moor Man's shield

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Nice looking group. Love the Yellow Jacket. The Craftsman is tough to find in any kind of decent shape. Great finds all. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:23 pm
by TPK
Very nice finds Floyd! ::tu:: Congrats Buddy! ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:27 pm
by doglegg
Thanks PB and Tom. I agree PB, the Craftsman were bought as tools to be used and most were. ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:29 pm
by Papa Bones
The 2001 Remington R14 Show Knife came in last week. So adding it to my 72 Clones group. The blades were really stiff, so added some Tuff Glide and worked them a bit. They snap now. I believe this knife sit in the original box and plastic sleeve and was never exercised much, and I still (just in my opinion) really don't trust keeping knives in a plastic sleeve which some knife makers are famous for sealing their knives in. But I digress. Here is a couple of photos. One taken outside and one taken inside. I took the one inside because I could never get the blade etch to show up outside for some reason.
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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:59 pm
by doglegg
Sweet PB ::nod:: ::nod::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:49 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:29 pm The 2001 Remington.....
Smitty, That is one VERY good looking CAMILLUS 72 variation. ::tu::
So, there appears to be 5 Remington variations.
The hunt continues.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:47 pm
by Papa Bones
doglegg wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:59 pm Sweet PB ::nod:: ::nod::
Thanks Floyd.



New_Windsor_NY wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:49 pm
Smitty, That is one VERY good looking CAMILLUS 72 variation. ::tu::
So, there appears to be 5 Remington variations.
The hunt continues.
Thanks Skip. Yep.......there is always another to hunt!! :D

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:10 pm
by carrmillus
....another one I didn't know existed!!!!........ ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ...............

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:37 pm
by Papa Bones
I'm gonna post this under the "Is It?" category. I Found this last week and believe it could be a "72 Clone" depending on how accurate you want to be in length. According to my measurements it is just a Hair over 1/16th inch shorter than the Camillus 72 and most other clones. It is also a little wider. It is an Imperial Schrade Imp24 swell center whittler with Cracked Ice handles.
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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:22 pm
by Papa Bones
I added these to my Camillus 72 Clones group over the last 12 days. All are a variation I did not have.

First, a Camillus 1047 BSA Swell Center Whittler with the Round BSA Shield, & Delrin handles. It has the Camillus long line tang stamp.
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Next Is a Remington R14W with the multi-colored wood handles. It has the round Remington Shield, Round Remington Made In USA tang stamp, and Remington etch on the main blade. It came in the original box, with paperwork and was in the original plastic sleeve.
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Last Is A Remington RE18293 Swell Center Whittler With Black handles. It has the oval Remington Shield, with cursive "Remington USA" tang stamp. It does not have a blade etch and the model is not stamped on any of the other blades. This one came in the original plastic sleeve with the tag with barcode and model number on the sleeve. The seller didn't have the original box, but did include a newer green Remington box.
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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:18 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:22 pm I added these.....
Smitty, with the exception of the first knife that you posted, it's too short, they are ALL fine looking and legitimate CAMILLUS 72 variations. ::tu:: I have one similar to that first knife you posted and it too is just a tad off on the measurement. I removed it from my variation collection.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:41 am
by jerryd6818
It also has a pen blade instead of the coping blade, the swell center is not pronounced enough to suit me and the bolsters are too bullet shaped. Picky. Picky. Picky.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:56 am
by Ripster
jerryd6818 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:41 am It also has a pen blade instead of the coping blade, the swell center is not pronounced enough to suit me and the bolsters are too bullet shaped. Picky. Picky. Picky.
Picky picky picky ,yep but we love ya anyway you old Marine. Have a good night Jerry ::handshake::