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Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:09 pm
by QTCut5
Modern Slip Joints wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:43 am At the risk of beating a dead horse, I believe in this case second cut bone (SCB) means the second slice taken off the bone and SCB has nothing to do with the jigging pattern or dye used. This knife has the second slice off the bone jigged and dyed as Burnt Oatmeal. That's my story and I'm sticking to it until proven wrong, again.

On other knives Case has applied a jigging pattern and dyed bone to make the bone look like their modern jigged and dyed second slice off an antler. Even though it might be the first cut off the bone they call the jigging and dye Second Cut. The pattern number will start with SC6. Clear as mud?
Thanks for the explanation. I must admit I never knew why some second cut bone had "SC" in the pattern number and some didn't.
Here's an example of a SC6207
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Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:18 pm
by QTCut5
Back on the Stag Wagon...

These next two are "Big" Mini Trappers; measuring approx 3 7/8" each instead of the standard 3½" (I say "approximately" because on my primitive plastic ruler it looks closer to 3 13/16" and OCD Monkey usually insists on precise data, especially when numbers are involved :roll: ) Interestingly, neither of these two has half-stops.

This Carl Schlieper Eye Brand has "3 Eyes" as well as some very nice stag on both mark & pile sides. I love this knife; it's a true piece of cutlery art IMHO.
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I believe this New York Knife Co. Walden was made by Schrade...not 100% sure, but I recall reading something (right here on AAPK) about Schrade owning the trademark. I'm not very familiar with Schrade knives as I've only ever owned a few. But, from my limited experience I would say that this knife definitely has the "feel" of a Schrade made knife.
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Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:09 pm
by jerryd6818
6" plastic calipers --- $1.13 w/free shipping ---► https://www.ebay.com/itm/150mm-Sliding- ... SwFlxZaOsH

No more guessing about the closed length of a knife.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:14 pm
by Modern Slip Joints
Rounding to 1/8" appears to be customary on knife forums but in notes I make for myself I round to 1/16". Just to measure pocket knife handles I paid $1 for an old plastic RCBS 4" vernier caliper that is graduated in 1/64". I saves converting the measurement from good calipers to fractions. I wish it was a 6" caliper.

That stag Carl Schlieper is a beautiful knife. I'll go out on a limb and argue that adding a shield tends to result in poorer stag. Your Carl Schlieper and Walden illustrate the point. The peaks of the bark were sanded off to make it easier to install the shield on the Walden. I'd rather have gnarlier stag and no shield. Some knives have shields set deep into gnarly stag but they're less common.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:18 am
by QTCut5
Modern Slip Joints wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:14 pm I'd rather have gnarlier stag and no shield. Some knives have shields set deep into gnarly stag but they're less common.
Mini T Monkey will crucify me for putting a Barlow in the Mini Trapper thread; but, just to illustrate the point that sometimes you can have both gnarly stag and a shield...
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It certainly helps to have a small shield that can fit down inside between the gnarls and even then you might have to custom carve a gnarl or to.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:41 am
by jerryd6818
My response to that monkey would get me kicked off AAPK.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:59 am
by rugmar
I saw an 07 in an antique store yesterday. It was a tested era knife with a clip and a pen. Blades were mostly full and were grayish with patina. Handle scales were rough black. It looked a lot like the one shown on page one of this post. The guy was asking $60 which I thought was a great price. It had no wobble on either blade and still had some pretty good snap. Maybe I should go back tomorrow?

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:59 am
by steve99f
I would and see if he would take 45. ::tu::

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:06 am
by QTCut5
...and then close the deal at $50! Win Win :D ::nod::

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:09 am
by QTCut5
jerryd6818 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:41 am My response to that monkey would get me kicked off AAPK.
You're just lucky you don't have to live with him like I do. :evil:

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:43 am
by jerryd6818
QTCut5 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:09 am
jerryd6818 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:41 am My response to that monkey would get me kicked off AAPK.
You're just lucky you don't have to live with him like I do. :evil:
I have my own monkey. He's of the pigmy species and a little more tame but a monkey just the same.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:25 am
by QTCut5
Now that I've shown my Big Mini Stags, it seems only appropriate to show a few Stag Mini Trappers on the other end of the size spectrum. They might even be considered Pygmy Minis...which may appeal to certain of the aforementioned Mini T Monkey species.
Measuring in at 3 3/8" (3 5/16" by OCD Monkey reckoning) are these three Queens (which, unlike the renown Three Kings of Christmas lore, definitely "of Orient" are not!):

First up is the companion to one I showed earlier, DFC era Schatt & Morgan 1095 Carbon 1 0f 50, except unlike its unadorned, no-shield twin this one sports the traditional S&M keystone shield. It also has much fatter stag handles.
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Speaking of fat stag Queens...although, I wouldn't recommend calling this one "fat" (at least not to its face) because you wouldn't want to offend it. And, like the bear trap blade etch suggests, it does indeed have a Bear Trap Snap that could easily take off a carelessly misplaced finger and still sound like a firecracker as it closed. I would venture to say that this is probably the hardest closing knife in my entire collection. Love that sound!
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Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:31 am
by QTCut5
Batting cleanup in today's lineup is another shorty & fatty stag mini: a made-in-USA Battle-Axe Brand.
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Notice that all three of these short minis have identical Spay blades but the master Clip blade on the Schatt & Morgan has a slightly different profile from the other two. Also, the Spay blade on the Queen Bear Trap has a pile-side nail nick.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:50 am
by QTCut5
Another Queen product; this one wearing Robeson insignia
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A Pacific Rim product wearing Smith & Wesson insignia
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Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:20 pm
by QTCut5
Christmas Eve is as good a time as ever to do some last minute wrapping; so, I think I'll just go ahead and wrap up my little stag show extravaganza with these final few from my Stag Mini Trapper pile. Consider this my Christmas gift to y'all, my Mini T buddies and your respective Mini T Monkeys, Pygmy and King Kong-size alike.

C. Bertram Hen & Rooster, Spain
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Bulldog Brand
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Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:42 pm
by QTCut5
Just a few more (well...you got anything better to do on Christmas eve?)

Here are the final few from my Case Stag collection

1979 Bradford Centennial
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1997 Red Stag
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2005 Genuine India Stag (1st Run)
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Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:05 pm
by QTCut5
Last but not least...

2004 Genuine Stag
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Stag Coleman AUS-8 Seki, Japan (First Production Run) with a lantern (tang stamp) that you can set in a window to guide Santa Clause to your home with his big bag full of knives where, if you've been a good little monkey, he will leave that one very special knife under your Christmas tree that's been dancing with the visions of sugar plums in your wee little Mini T Monkey head. ::oh_my::
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A very Merry Christmas to all y'all! :)

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:02 pm
by jmh58
Q.. WOW!!! All very fine Stags.. Thanks for taking time to share!!
Merry Christmas to ya too..
John :D

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:20 pm
by jerryd6818
Awesome ~Q~. Just blinking awesome. And a Merry Christmas to you and of course to anyone else who happens to read this.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:22 pm
by doglegg
Thanks for the early present Q. My eyes are full. God bless you and yours in this Christmas time. ::nod:: ::handshake::

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:49 pm
by jerryd6818
One of Linnea's Christmas gifts to me. Very classy in hand.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:09 pm
by jmh58
jerry... ::tu:: ::nod:: ::tu::
John :D

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:29 pm
by QTCut5
Evidently, Linnea knows her man. With the addition of this new one, jerryd, I believe you must now have all the Mini Ts needed to put on a nice patriotic-themed 07 display. Schweet! ::tu::

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:45 pm
by jerryd6818
QTCut5 wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:29 pm I believe you must now have all the Mini Ts needed to put on a nice patriotic-themed 07 display. Schweet! ::tu::
I have to confess. I give her "suggestions" and she buy's 'em. :oops:

I have a patriotic display set. In fact a couple of them in the Mini-T pattern. Along with another with a flag motif, this is just icing on the cake.

Re: Ode To The 07

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:18 pm
by QTCut5
A lesson to us all: Never underestimate the power of suggestion (or the sapidity of icing on the cake!) ::drool::