Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:52 am
Nice group of handguns!
I like the grips on the Dan Wesson and the BulArmory.
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While it is only occasionally available in 22lr in this area, I have shot quite a bit of centerfire Fiocchi and agree that it is very good stuff. Their brass is also excellent for reloading.Quick Steel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:23 pm Very interesting comments about your ammo experiences. While I don't have it in .22, I'd like to give a plug for my favorite ammo namely Fiocchi. By far the cleanest ammo I've ever fired. Excellent accuracy as well.
That is best done by outside sources anyway. No loss there.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:01 pm I see the current administration has issued an executive order to cease all federal funding to public schools which teach gun safety and/or archery classes.What a moron!
Ken
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:05 pmThat is best done by outside sources anyway. No loss there.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:01 pm I see the current administration has issued an executive order to cease all federal funding to public schools which teach gun safety and/or archery classes.What a moron!
Ken
I am sure the various states have organizations like South Dakota does that would do a much better job than the schools. In SD we have the SD Shooting Sports Assn, the SD Dept of Game Fish and Parks Outdoor Campus, and other excellent youth shooting groups. Last week I took my buddy's boy to the gunclub with me. He recently got his hunters safety card after taking one of our state programs. Our first time out I watched him very closely to see what his gun handling was like, and it was top of the line as far as safety was concerned.1967redrider wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:43 pmOLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:05 pmThat is best done by outside sources anyway. No loss there.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:01 pm I see the current administration has issued an executive order to cease all federal funding to public schools which teach gun safety and/or archery classes.What a moron!
Ken
I'm starting to feel that way about all education, OC. Don't need some left-wing kook teaching elementary school kids about gender confusing topics and drag queen storytelling.
We shoot a lot of Fiocchi 12 ga in sporting clays. 1 oz, 7.5, around 1250 fps when we can get it. We also shoot a lot of Bornaghi. Someone at the club usually buys a huge load of flats, and we will take 5 or10 flats each to split the costs. Right now we are paying around $80 to $85 a flat (flat is 250 shells).Quick Steel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:23 pm Very interesting comments about your ammo experiences. While I don't have it in .22, I'd like to give a plug for my favorite ammo namely Fiocchi. By far the cleanest ammo I've ever fired. Excellent accuracy as well.
Yes… there is a loss.OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:05 pmThat is best done by outside sources anyway. No loss there.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:01 pm I see the current administration has issued an executive order to cease all federal funding to public schools which teach gun safety and/or archery classes.What a moron!
Ken
I agree. I was taught archery in high school, didn’t have an actual team that competed but years later that was added. My cousin’s two daughters were top competitors at the state level.MadeinUSA wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:55 pmYes… there is a loss.OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:05 pmThat is best done by outside sources anyway. No loss there.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:01 pm I see the current administration has issued an executive order to cease all federal funding to public schools which teach gun safety and/or archery classes.What a moron!
Ken
A big loss.
Loss of liberty…
Loss of our right as parents and local school districts to say what will and won’t be taught
The Feds, now essentially American Communists led by FJB and evil cronies bent on destruction of this country, should be stopped at all cost.
We cannot let them continue to chip away at liberty and continue their tyrannical overreach at the federal level.
When you take something out of school… how many students WON’T get to participate that would have participated in school.
Firearm safety and archery and whatever should be able to be taught in school… if the local school wants it. It’s NONE of the feds da*n business.
What I am saying is it would be many times better to have gun safety courses taught by Certified NRA Safety Instructors than by public school teachers. The teachers union, the NEA is one of the most rabid anti gun groups around. As far as it not being available to everyone, the National Shooting Sports Foundation and other groups have online videos, class finders, and online training for gun safety. Most areas dont have this in the schools now, we dont here.MadeinUSA wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:55 pmYes… there is a loss.OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:05 pmThat is best done by outside sources anyway. No loss there.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:01 pm I see the current administration has issued an executive order to cease all federal funding to public schools which teach gun safety and/or archery classes.What a moron!
Ken
A big loss.
Loss of liberty…
Loss of our right as parents and local school districts to say what will and won’t be taught
The Feds, now essentially American Communists led by FJB and evil cronies bent on destruction of this country, should be stopped at all cost.
We cannot let them continue to chip away at liberty and continue their tyrannical overreach at the federal level.
When you take something out of school… how many students WON’T get to participate that would have participated in school.
Firearm safety and archery and whatever should be able to be taught in school… if the local school wants it. It’s NONE of the feds da*n business.
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:22 amWhat I am saying is it would be many times better to have gun safety courses taught by Certified NRA Safety Instructors than by public school teachers. The teachers union, the NEA is one of the most rabid anti gun groups around. As far as it not being available to everyone, the National Shooting Sports Foundation and other groups have online videos, class finders, and online training for gun safety. Most areas dont have this in the schools now, we dont here.MadeinUSA wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:55 pmYes… there is a loss.OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:05 pm
That is best done by outside sources anyway. No loss there.
A big loss.
Loss of liberty…
Loss of our right as parents and local school districts to say what will and won’t be taught
The Feds, now essentially American Communists led by FJB and evil cronies bent on destruction of this country, should be stopped at all cost.
We cannot let them continue to chip away at liberty and continue their tyrannical overreach at the federal level.
When you take something out of school… how many students WON’T get to participate that would have participated in school.
Firearm safety and archery and whatever should be able to be taught in school… if the local school wants it. It’s NONE of the feds da*n business.
It wasn't available in schools when I was a kid either. Dad, an older brother, and other family members all added their ideas, which was a LONG time ago now. lol1967redrider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:07 pm When I was in the local public schools, we had several teachers who were hunting enthusiasts and went out during all the Fall game seasons. I would have trusted any one of them to teach firearms training, but it wasn't offered in my schools. The state of Maryland is ran by Baltimorons.
Yes, it is disgusting. I’ve had a FFL for 32 years and have only had 1 inspection and that was over 25 years ago. I keep wondering when they will be at my doorOLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:52 pm Interesting item I read yesterday. The Feds have lifted the licenses from 122 FFL gun dealers since last October for minor paperwork errors. In the meantime Hunter Biden walks free after perjurng himself on the 4473 gun purchasing form.
Very similar to how getting huting license up here. Had to take my Hunters safety and PAL, the hunters safety is run in the provence, PAL/gun ownership is federal. Not taught in schools though.Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:29 pm Sorry to be late getting back to this. My point is that it is gross federal over reach by the Biden administration. The federal government, whether Biden or anyone else has no business telling local school districts what to do. Locally elected school boards, and the administrators and teachers they hire should determine the curriculum, not some bureaucrat in Washington.
As for there being others more qualified, that may or may not be true. In Texas you cannot get a hunting license without first passing a hunter safety education course (those of a certain age were “grandfathered in” when the law was passed - my boys had to take the class - I didn’t). The curriculum is set by the state. Some school districts offer that class as a convenience for students wanting to take it - it’s an elective. Some schools also have shooting clubs, fishing clubs, archery clubs, etc, with a faculty sponsor or sponsors. I guess the feds would rather those students be gang members.
For the feds to tell a community they can’t teach gun safety, archery, or for that matter tiddlywinks, without losing funding is unacceptable. Period. Determining curriculum appropriate for local needs is the job of local authorities.
Ken