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Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:56 am
by americanedgetech
Still hard at it.
Digging in the knife mines.
I bought a Frontier "Powder Horn" (made by Imperial I believe)
a Camillus "Young Buck" limited production, and a NM Winchester trapper number 1 of 1,000.
Every one of them I paid less than 1/2 of what I feel they should have gone for so it was a good day.
Forgot... " I also bought the Original Trapper" that Kooteney Joe was selling in another thread.
So I'm done buying for the week, and it's time to begin cataloging what I have to date.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:14 am
by Old Hunter
Always thought the Imperial Frontiers were "sleeper" knives, more deserving as good quality pocketknives than they get credit for - the ones I have seen and the ones I have owned have been excellent working knives. Never seen the Camillus Young Buck etch - pretty cool. OH
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:04 pm
by americanedgetech
Yeah, I thought the whole group had something interesting about each piece. They are each unique in some way...
I don't know if you noticed the deer shield on the Camillus... near the but end bolster.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:05 pm
by jerryd6818
Great Camillus #29. I too have never seen the "Young Buck" etch nor the little buck enlay/shield. BTW, in case you didn't know, Camillus called those Delrin handles "Indian Stag". Pretty darned cool. I have a soft spot for the 29 pattern and would collect them but there are so few variations, once you got them all the rest would just be hoarding.

Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:45 pm
by John Carter
These are in the mail...
Paid 59.99 for the Russel Commemorative and 50.00 for the Case.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:23 pm
by Quick Steel
You did well John. Those are two winners for sure. Your cost is imo is very reasonable.

Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:09 pm
by John Carter
Thanks Quick! I love the Barlows. Although I've read that Barlow knives were widely counterfeit ed, more so than others. Remington and a couple of other companies are vulnerable to this.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:27 pm
by americanedgetech
jerryd6818 wrote:Great Camillus #29. I too have never seen the "Young Buck" etch nor the little buck enlay/shield. BTW, in case you didn't know, Camillus called those Delrin handles "Indian Stag". Pretty darned cool. I have a soft spot for the 29 pattern and would collect them but there are so few variations, once you got them all the rest would just be hoarding.

My hoarding has only just begun sir!

Ohhh.... Native American stag. Jus sayin'
John Carter, I love those Barlows!
I had read that Barlows were made with the extra long bolster to provide additional strength and torsional support for the main blade. That in turn made them a more used pattern as a work knife that led to more cloning, and counterfeiting than other knife patterns
It was never meant as a collectible value type copying but more of a market share grab type thing.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:58 pm
by John Carter
americanedgetech wrote:jerryd6818 wrote:Great Camillus #29. I too have never seen the "Young Buck" etch nor the little buck enlay/shield. BTW, in case you didn't know, Camillus called those Delrin handles "Indian Stag". Pretty darned cool. I have a soft spot for the 29 pattern and would collect them but there are so few variations, once you got them all the rest would just be hoarding.

My hoarding has only just begun sir!

Ohhh.... Native American stag. Jus sayin'
John Carter, I love those Barlows!
I had read that Barlows were made with the extra long bolster to provide additional strength and torsional support for the main blade. That in turn made them a more used pattern as a work knife that led to more cloning, and counterfeiting than other knife patterns
It was never meant as a collectible value type copying but more of a market share grab type thing.
Interesting. So cloning may not have been due to high collectabillity, but to simply sell more for use. Wow. I wonder if there is a specific guide to counterfeits, particularly barlows?
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:20 pm
by americanedgetech
Yeah. It was more of a copy of the pattern than to make money in fakes.
But today may be different because Barlows go back to the 1690's so finding an old "copy" Barlow may be an easy blade swap to an older John Barlow from the early 1700's or an even older one from O. Barlow in the 1690's
Counterfeiting is a big deal in knife collecting. They show up everywhere, and that is one of the biggest advantages in joining a forum. Having thousands of experienced collectors to look at suspect knives is a great advantage.
Youtube is also a great place to find advice on counterfeits BUT you have to be careful whom you listen to there.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:41 pm
by Quick Steel
Barlows became easily the best selling knife pattern more than a century ago. They achieved instant popularity with the publication of Tom Sawyer bt Mark Twain. Tom's barlow figured in an early scene.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:25 pm
by sunknife
Great looking pick-ups fellas.
I especially like those 2 barrows you snagged John Carter, the Russell getting a slight edge over the Case for me.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:15 pm
by tongueriver
A couple coming in, I hope.
This Dan Graves from a member and friend:
And a Randall from the Bay:
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:33 pm
by Quick Steel
tongueriver: Your Randall is masterful. It is so sweet I do believe it is giving me a toothache. Truly an impressive display of artistry. Congratulations.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:39 pm
by americanedgetech
There are just too many beautiful knives to buy every one you like but it sure is worth giving a shot.
I Love that Randall TR...
Thee more coming. The first is just an old wooden handled "Oyster" knife that I got for a couple bucks. Apalachicola Bay (where I live) has been supporting the oyster industry for more than a century, and it still is today.
I have a buddy that owns a restaurant here, and he is buying all the antique Oyster knives I can supply as an homage display to oyster-men form the past-present. I'll post a picture some time in the future when the collection gets impressive.
The second knife is a Heinrick Boker stockman with a broken secondary blade that was almost free. I'll figure out what to do with it once I get it.
Third is an Anvil Fillet knife because everyone here needs a great fillet knife.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:21 am
by Quick Steel

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The Trapper has Black G10 handle with Titanium finished blades. The Stockman has Buffalo Horn handles.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:43 am
by americanedgetech
Lovin' the trapper.
With the money I spend on breakfast (2 Java Monsters, beef jerky, and a pack of smokes) I could but 2 RR knives every day, and STILL save a few dollars.
Maybe I'll just buy one Java M. per day...

Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:08 am
by KnifeSlinger#81
americanedgetech wrote:Lovin' the trapper.
With the money I spend on breakfast (2 Java Monsters, beef jerky, and a pack of smokes) I could but 2 RR knives every day, and STILL save a few dollars.
Maybe I'll just buy one Java M. per day...

If you like beef jerky, have you ever tried no mans land? It beats all. Made in oklahoma too, which is where I'm from.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:17 am
by americanedgetech
I don't believe they have that down here. Carrabelle is slow allowing anything in that was not born or made here...you can still buy VHS movies at the gas station, and if you want anything in fast food (White Castle ect...) you have to order it on the internet.
https://order.whitecastle.com/OrderNow/#/home That makes it VERY slow food IMHO.
I buy that mystery meat jerky that they have in the serve yourself plastic tray/bin thing.
On the plus side... I will never need a tetanus shot or antibiotics again.

Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:16 am
by americanedgetech
In the mail...
Saber 620. I "think" this is a Thin Trapper. Carbon blade, and no shield so I believe it is a German made version from the 70's?
Another Frontier. This time a Stockman that I think I will polish up, and carry. Also 70's I think.
Then I bought a nice Remington bullet shield lock-back w/ box, and papers. 1984
I have to slow this roll... but they are all so cute, and they all need forever homes. I'm just happy that I can foster so many of them.

Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:13 pm
by americanedgetech
I feel bad posting so many in a row here but, in the mail...
Two seperate auctions but I think these are both Camillus made.
The first is a Fairmount Cutlery NYC Swell end Jack dating to the thirties ('30-'40) I realize they are not the best knives but this is a nice example, and it is a Camillus (after all).
Second is a Remington Swell end dating from the 70's-90's I believe? Also a Camillus as I understand.
Sweet little knives if I do say so myself.

Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:27 pm
by espn77
Your knive is a contract knive from the late 30's probably.
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:32 pm
by americanedgetech
I know the Fairmount is but I didn't think the Remington was due to the Line stamp as per the other thread asking about them.
Is there a reason that you know of that it would not have a circle shield? Because it was "contract" made, and not made in house?
I'm sooooooo confused.
EDIT:
Similar for the Remingtom bullet shield I posted in the post above these... It has a circle shield dating from the 20'-30's but I know that is a Camillus Repro.
I know they are trying to drive me more insane.

Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:41 pm
by espn77
The 1984 stamp on the back. That's when it was made by Camillas
Re: It's In The Mail
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:51 pm
by americanedgetech
That one I understood. The rest of Remington seem like... hair pullin'.
I'll get it. I hope.