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Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:09 pm
by Shearer
bestgear wrote:I too took a peek at the MOP Scout Whittler this morning and after about 2 hours of research in my knife books, BSA National Supply Catalogs, Boy's Life Magazines and Boy Scout Handbooks I can find no evidence of Camillus ever "officially" producing a BSA Model 1047 with MOP. To be generous, this eBay seller has previously "improved" the condition of standard production BSA knives through rehandling and backspring file work.
I agree with Jerry that this is most likely a black handled 1047 rehandled with MOP.
On the other hand you could spin a great story about it being a 1 of 1 example of the 1047.......I'm sticking to my research and gut on this one.
The seller of the knife is a lucky person .He seems to find knives that don"t exist or knives the blades are used but the handles are perfect.
Nice knives Colonel46 and jerry.
Love the 72 and clones.
Grant
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:34 pm
by jerryd6818
Shearer wrote: Love the 72 and clones.
Grant
I know you do. How's the pile coming these days?
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:37 pm
by Colonel26
Alright, since I told Jerry, I'll tell the rest if you. It was done by our very own Glennbad for a friend. He decided he couldn't live with the pattern and I inherited for my services!
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:54 pm
by Shearer
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:28 pm
by jerryd6818
Yeah, me too. And the occasional cheap one (under $15-$20 including shipping). I can see where I'm headed. For a while I was a collector. Now I'm turning back into an accumulator.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:45 pm
by orvet
jerryd6818 wrote:
I can see where I'm headed. For a while I was a collector. Now I'm turning back into an accumulator.
Isn't that what a real collector does, ............................................................................. gets OCD over certain items?
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:48 pm
by jerryd6818
I fear you may be correct Dale.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:20 pm
by Colonel26
I feel your pain. Right now Camillus 72 and 69 and Western 742 patterns are in a neck and neck race to see who can edge out the other. It'll be interesting to see who wins!
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:29 pm
by jerryd6818
Colonel26 wrote: It'll be interesting to see who wins!
You do. Those are all fine knives.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:51 pm
by Shearer
72 ,4 line.What do you think of this knife.
Is the fourth line the line under Camillus.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-pocket- ... 20dddfe959
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:59 pm
by jerryd6818
Can't tell Grant. Can you get a clearer shot of the tang stamp?
I've never seen one with stag handles. It could be a rehandle.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:13 pm
by Shearer
Jerry think it's a long line under Camillus.Some of these picture on Ebay are not very clear.( if it does not have a line it must be a three line.
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Grant
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:39 pm
by Colonel26
It's a long line. Surely to goodness it's a rehandle. It looks nice though.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:40 pm
by tjmurphy
I just looked at that one on ebay and it is the looooooong underline. There is a clearer picture of it in his listing, though he calls it a four-line stamp.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:54 pm
by jerryd6818
Good eyes boys. Definitely a long line and definitely a rehandle. Handle pins are too large to be factory, plus even with the poor focus pictures there's evidence in the bolster pin that it's been apart.
Good God. I've seen more of this going on with 72s over the past six months. Now I have to worry about 72 counterfeits.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:06 pm
by Colonel26
At least they picked a pretty piece of stag.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:17 pm
by Shearer
Good God. I've seen more of this going on with 72s over the past six months. Now I have to worry about 72 counterfeits.
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Jerry as the price goes up the cockroach's appear.It's like a feeding frenzy.
Wish they would be honest.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:20 pm
by carrmillus
......I've never seen a 4line(1914-1941) camillus whittler that wasn't the split-backspring configuration(both secondary blades on opposite end from the primary)...........
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Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:56 pm
by jerryd6818
Exactly Tommy. I'd be willing to bet the pucker in my butt the first Carpenter's & Whittler's (#72s) were short line made in very late 1945 or sometime in 1946. This one is a long line made in the late 1950s or later.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:56 pm
by carrmillus
........exactamundo!!!!...........
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Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:00 pm
by Cutty
Well lookee here what I got.
Ol' Jerry sent it to me
Now I see what all the fuss is about
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:11 pm
by Colonel26
Brian, it's no secrete what I think. Generally, with these big mitts of mine, anything less than 4 inches is a toy.
But the 72 is the biggest little knife I've ever packed.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:41 pm
by Shearer
Cutty wrote:Well lookee here what I got.
Ol' Jerry sent it to me
Now I see what all the fuss is about
Nice knife .
You should be happy with it. ( It comes with a free virus and there is no treatment )
I've have one or two or three or ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????.
Grant
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:51 pm
by Colonel26
Woo Hoo I just slipped one by Jerry and Grant! That's getting harder to do. It's in pretty good shape it seems from the pictures and it comes with an old four line Camillus scout. The scout's blade is pretty worn, but everything ekes looks real good.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:11 pm
by Shearer
Colonel26 wrote:Woo Hoo I just slipped one by Jerry and Grant! That's getting harder to do. It's in pretty good shape it seems from the pictures and it comes with an old four line Camillus scout. The scout's blade is pretty worn, but everything ekes looks real good.
Colonel 26: I was watching that one .The seller would not put a set price on postage so I would not bid.( I get postage quotes from $6 to $40 so I have watch what I bid on )
Plus the wife is keeping a eye on me.