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Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:58 pm
by Tony_Wood
Spent the week instructing at a third world missions training camp. We covered survival priorities in several modules: shelter, fire, water, mindset, gear, etc.
Think I’m getting too old to spend more than one night in a hammock.
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Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:03 pm
by Tony_Wood
I ran a water boil test:
Two cups of water in a stainless container.

Single propane burner: 1:41
Wood stove: 6:48
Alcohol stove: 6:10
Coals: 18:45
Flaming fire: 3:21
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Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:24 pm
by Colonel26
Good stuff Tony!

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:05 pm
by treefarmer
Tony, tell us about the purpose of the training, please Sir. ::hmm:: In that 1st picture, looks like somebody got a little bit of sun. :)
Treefarmer

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:31 pm
by Tony_Wood
treefarmer wrote:Tony, tell us about the purpose of the training, please Sir. ::hmm:: In that 1st picture, looks like somebody got a little bit of sun. :)
Treefarmer
TF,
These classes are an introduction to living in a third world invironment. Classes include: defensive and off-road driving, field expedient medicine where doctors are several days travel away, cultural awareness, food procurement and preparation, basic water/fire/shelter techniques, and others.
Most young people in our present culture have no concept of life without a supermarket and air conditioning.
These classes present a mindset and skill set to help them cope when they reach a third world mission field setting.
We have graduates who live and work in such places as the jungles of Peru/Ecuador/Brazil, India/Bhutan, Africa, Southeast Asia, Alaska, Canada, etc.
Students are normally either college students training for mission work who have this class as a graduating requirement, or missionary couples soon leaving the states.

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:12 pm
by treefarmer
10-4, Tony. When I was a youngster in central Florida many moons ago, there was a group called New Tribes Missions that would visit our church. If I recall correctly they lived in a camp that simulated what they would encounter when they got on the mission field.
The Baptist College of Florida has a Missionary Aviation course that is very interesting. A former pastor from our church is a retired Navy pilot and he taught the ground school for the college for a while. The college has an agreement with a small local airport where there are a few private planes and a couple of crop dusters. The do all sorts of short field landing practice, etc..We got to hear some of the mission pilots give their testimony and experiences. All good stuff!
Treefarmer

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:58 pm
by big monk
First pictures of some ""new ones"" :) _____________ and a young gobbler**

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:55 pm
by doglegg
Great work Tony. ::nod:: ::tu::
Cool pics Big Monk. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:58 pm
by Dinadan
Tony - I had never thought about the necessity for the kind of training that you are doing. As soon as I read your post I realized just how necessary it probably is. Over a few decades working outdoors for land surveying companies I have had to train many young men who had never used any kind of hand tool, never had to contend with long hikes through mud, wade creeks, and so on. Some of those men had a tough time adjusting to a day job in woods and swamps. Going to another continent and doing total immersion - I would have a tough time! Great work getting those folks prepared!

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:06 pm
by TripleF
Tony_Wood wrote:
treefarmer wrote:Tony, tell us about the purpose of the training, please Sir. ::hmm:: In that 1st picture, looks like somebody got a little bit of sun. :)
Treefarmer
TF,
These classes are an introduction to living in a third world invironment. Classes include: defensive and off-road driving, field expedient medicine where doctors are several days travel away, cultural awareness, food procurement and preparation, basic water/fire/shelter techniques, and others.
Most young people in our present culture have no concept of life without a supermarket and air conditioning.
These classes present a mindset and skill set to help them cope when they reach a third world mission field setting.
We have graduates who live and work in such places as the jungles of Peru/Ecuador/Brazil, India/Bhutan, Africa, Southeast Asia, Alaska, Canada, etc.
Students are normally either college students training for mission work who have this class as a graduating requirement, or missionary couples soon leaving the states.
Outstanding Tony!! Outstanding!!

Finished up camp this week with corn on the coals!!

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:39 pm
by Tony_Wood
treefarmer wrote:10-4, Tony. When I was a youngster in central Florida many moons ago, there was a group called New Tribes Missions that would visit our church. If I recall correctly they lived in a camp that simulated what they would encounter when they got on the mission field.
The Baptist College of Florida has a Missionary Aviation course that is very interesting. A former pastor from our church is a retired Navy pilot and he taught the ground school for the college for a while. The college has an agreement with a small local airport where there are a few private planes and a couple of crop dusters. The do all sorts of short field landing practice, etc..We got to hear some of the mission pilots give their testimony and experiences. All good stuff!
Treefarmer
Awesome info about the school. My son is planning to get his Airframe and Power Mechanic license and has already been working on his pilot’s license. I will forward this info to him.

Great testimonies you must have heard through the years of first hand experiences.
doglegg wrote:Great work Tony. ::nod:: ::tu::
Cool pics Big Monk. ::tu:: ::tu::
Thanks Floyd. It is satisfying to hear back from those on the field.
Dinadan wrote:Tony - I had never thought about the necessity for the kind of training that you are doing. As soon as I read your post I realized just how necessary it probably is. Over a few decades working outdoors for land surveying companies I have had to train many young men who had never used any kind of hand tool, never had to contend with long hikes through mud, wade creeks, and so on. Some of those men had a tough time adjusting to a day job in woods and swamps. Going to another continent and doing total immersion - I would have a tough time! Great work getting those folks prepared!
Mel, the founder of the school went to Africa and had not been trained for such a change of environment. Feeling like a failure when he returned to the states, he started this training school.
No sugar, no caffeine, and no WiFi is a shock to young people today.
TripleF wrote:
Tony_Wood wrote:
treefarmer wrote:Tony, tell us about the purpose of the training, please Sir. ::hmm:: In that 1st picture, looks like somebody got a little bit of sun. :)
Treefarmer
TF,
These classes are an introduction to living in a third world invironment. Classes include: defensive and off-road driving, field expedient medicine where doctors are several days travel away, cultural awareness, food procurement and preparation, basic water/fire/shelter techniques, and others.
Most young people in our present culture have no concept of life without a supermarket and air conditioning.
These classes present a mindset and skill set to help them cope when they reach a third world mission field setting.
We have graduates who live and work in such places as the jungles of Peru/Ecuador/Brazil, India/Bhutan, Africa, Southeast Asia, Alaska, Canada, etc.
Students are normally either college students training for mission work who have this class as a graduating requirement, or missionary couples soon leaving the states.
Outstanding Tony!! Outstanding!!

Finished up camp this week with corn on the coals!!
Thanks Scott. You are doing a fantastic work there! That corn looks great, and those young’uns look ecstatic!

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:17 am
by doglegg
Finished up camp this week with corn on the coals!![/quote]

Scott, used to fix corn like that a lot when the boys were small. Soaked the ears in a buck of water first and then on the fire to steam. MMMMM
I have enjoyed your camp this year. Thanks. ::tu:: ::nod:: ::handshake::

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:23 am
by TripleF
doglegg wrote:Finished up camp this week with corn on the coals!!
Scott, used to fix corn like that a lot when the boys were small. Soaked the ears in a buck of water first and then on the fire to steam. MMMMM
I have enjoyed your camp this year. Thanks. ::tu:: ::nod:: ::handshake::[/quote]

Thanks Floyd!

No water here....plenty moisture inside the husks!!

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:57 am
by djknife13
All this talk about survival reminded me of a story a guy told me once. He was working for DNR in Northern Minnesota evaluating forests areas out where it's just pretty much wilderness on snowshoes in the dead of Winter back when nobody carried cell phones, (although they probably wouldn't pick up a tower out there anyway). He had to relieve himself and backed his snowshoes under a fallen tree, pulled down his snowpants and shorts and thought he was all set with his improvised toilet. Then the tree let go and fell on his snowshoes, pinning him barebutt in the snow. The tree was too big to move and he couldn't reach over it to undo the laces on the snowshoes. His first thought was that someone would find him frozen to death from the bottom up in the spring. He managed to dig under the tree and reach the straps on the snowshoes before things started to freeze. It's funny how these kind of things sneak up on us sometimes. I doubt you would ever have read about this as a warning in a wilderness survival guide.____Dave

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:35 am
by treefarmer
Dave, that's plumb funny, now. That could have got serious real quick like. Brother, you and all that snow..... ::poke::
Did y'all notice what Tony was grillin' at the 3rd World Missions training camp? Last picture in the first group. ::hmm::
I see 'em in the grocery store all the time.
PM incoming for Tony.
Treefarmer

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:10 pm
by doglegg
Tony_Wood wrote:Spent the week instructing at a third world missions training camp. We covered survival priorities in several modules: shelter, fire, water, mindset, gear, etc.
Think I’m getting too old to spend more than one night in a hammock.

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Tony how did the chicken feet taste? I've seen them boiled in soup but never grilled. ::shrug:: ::shrug::

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:35 pm
by Tony_Wood
Dave, that is too funny! Survival is everywhere, and when one least expects it.
doglegg wrote:
Tony_Wood wrote:Spent the week instructing at a third world missions training camp. We covered survival priorities in several modules: shelter, fire, water, mindset, gear, etc.
Think I’m getting too old to spend more than one night in a hammock.

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Tony how did the chicken feet taste? I've seen them boiled in soup but never grilled. ::shrug:: ::shrug::
They tasted “just like chicken!” ::ds::

Rubbery, chewy, and smoky. Just as one would imagine.
I think that this is the only country where I have not seen chicken feet for sale in a public market.

Here’s a shot I took in Mexico earlier this year.
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Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:48 pm
by doglegg
Tony_Wood wrote:Dave, that is too funny! Survival is everywhere, and when one least expects it.
doglegg wrote:
Tony_Wood wrote:Spent the week instructing at a third world missions training camp. We covered survival priorities in several modules: shelter, fire, water, mindset, gear, etc.
Think I’m getting too old to spend more than one night in a hammock.

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Tony how did the chicken feet taste? I've seen them boiled in soup but never grilled. ::shrug:: ::shrug::
They tasted “just like chicken!” ::ds::

Rubbery, chewy, and smoky. Just as one would imagine.
I think that this is the only country where I have not seen chicken feet for sale in a public market.

Here’s a shot I took in Mexico earlier this year.

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They were always included with the chicken in both Costa Rica and Peru. ::nod::

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:05 pm
by treefarmer
Y'all need to come to the Florida Panhandle, both the Piggly Wiggly and Wal-Mart have chicken feet in their meat cases. I need to check the price on them, bet I can't get Miss Joy to buy a package of 'em and have "chicken scratchers" for supper. ::hmm::
Treefarmer

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:17 pm
by doglegg
Philip, out side of that one time all those years ago Miss Joy usually makes good decisions. ::tounge:: ::tounge::

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:22 pm
by Doc B
Just saw them this morning, in the store.

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:57 pm
by Dinadan
My local Walmart (Alabama) has chicken feet. I have never bought any, and never will!! Back when I was in college I would buy packs of chicken necks and make a chicken neck and rice soup. Delicious and about as cheap as food could be. But very noisy to eat with all the sucking to get the meat and morrow out of the bones. Good thing I lived alone! I have not seen necks for sale for a few years, maybe I just am not paying attention.

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:39 am
by treefarmer
Our 100 yard strip of Durana Clover is now crisscrossed by no less than maybe 25 downed pines. I can no longer maintain this food plot that was planted over a harvested row of pines, no bush-hogging or fertilizing until the pines are cut and removed. The deer are still using the clover but not as readily as they did before the hurricane. I decided to use the lawnmower to clean up in front of the camera, around the feeder so we could get better pictures. Click on the picture for more detail and see how it turned out:
Weeds, grass and clover, pretty thick.
Weeds, grass and clover, pretty thick.
Mowing the mess.
Mowing the mess.
Finished and loading on the trailer.
Finished and loading on the trailer.
The squirrels cut a hole in the plastic lid of the barrel and in order to keep rain from ruining the corn I made a little cover to shed the rain.  Apparently the wind blew it off during one of the thunderstorms and this little deer is having trouble adjusting to something new by the feeder.  There were about 30 pictures of this little deer getting acquainted with the piece of metal.
The squirrels cut a hole in the plastic lid of the barrel and in order to keep rain from ruining the corn I made a little cover to shed the rain. Apparently the wind blew it off during one of the thunderstorms and this little deer is having trouble adjusting to something new by the feeder. There were about 30 pictures of this little deer getting acquainted with the piece of metal.
Sharing the extra groceries.  Lots of coon pictures at night.  They can only get the corn that is on the ground.  They haven't been able to get up to the bottom of the feeder.
Sharing the extra groceries. Lots of coon pictures at night. They can only get the corn that is on the ground. They haven't been able to get up to the bottom of the feeder.
Deer season is getting closer!
Treefarmer

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:59 am
by Quick Steel
Very nice job Treefarmer.

Re: Outdoorsman Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:24 am
by Tony_Wood
treefarmer wrote:Our 100 yard strip of Durana Clover is now crisscrossed by no less than maybe 25 downed pines. I can no longer maintain this food plot that was planted over a harvested row of pines, no bush-hogging or fertilizing until the pines are cut and removed. The deer are still using the clover but not as readily as they did before the hurricane. I decided to use the lawnmower to clean up in front of the camera, around the feeder so we could get better pictures. Click on the picture for more detail and see how it turned out:MFDC6808.JPGMFDC6837.JPGMFDC6972.JPGMFDC7133.JPGMFDC7437.JPG
Deer season is getting closer!
Treefarmer
Phil,
Nice looking setup there. My foot plot got burned up this week in an errant debris pile fire.