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Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:18 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:32 pm Very.....
Thank you Floyd.🍻
Actually, these are the most common of the large wire handle SCHRADES.
This is my 12th GEO SCHRADE, single blade WITH fish scaler, large wire handle
pocket knife. I have more of this style or pattern than I have of any of the others.
This picture shows eight of them in my last group portrait. I've added four more to
this group since then. The other eleven have ALL been previously posted under this topic/thread.
Click on the picture to ENLARGE.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:20 pm
by doglegg
Thanks for the correction Skip. My surmise was all wrong. ::handshake::

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:11 pm
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:26 pm This morning, this pocket knife arrived and became the latest to join my collection. It's another GEO SCHRADE, single blade with fish scaler,
Sweet find Skip!! ::tu::

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:01 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Papa Bones wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:11 pm Sweet.....
Thank you Smitty.🍻

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:49 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
I'm posting the following for posterity as a reference. The knife is NOT mine. The pictures are NOT mine. The pictures have NOT been edited or altered, except for size. It's a Remington blade with a wire handle. I do NOT believe that this was a deliberate attempt by the seller to mislead anyone. I do believe that this was just a way for a previous owner to salvage a blade and a handle from two different broken pocket knives, put them together with a nail as a pivot pin and still have a functional piece of cutlery. It is very much like the L. F. & C. wire handle pocket knife that I bought and posted a couple of pages ago.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

Here is the link to the L. F. & C. wire handle pocket knife.
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 40#p901027

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:57 pm
by Miller Bro's
How much did it end up selling for Skip?

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:59 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:57 pm How.....
$42 with 5 bids (1st picture).

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:12 am
by Miller Bro's
Wow! $45.50 with the shipping cost :shock:

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:16 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Miller Bro's wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:12 am Wow.....
I know..... ::shrug::

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:34 am
by Miller Bro's
$30+ years ago I was buying these wire jack boy and girl scout eating utensil sets for $20 or less with the original leather sheath. Here is an example of one I have pictures of.

How times have changed :o

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:45 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Miller Bro's wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:34 am 30.....
Occasionally these complete sets come up for a "reasonable" price.
More often than not, they come up for a "ridiculous" price.
Oh well.....

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:24 pm
by joeradza
The bulk of the wirejack collection is no longer in my hands but that won’t stop me from singing their praises. If I were to guess I think the trapper is one of the most popular traditional patterns. If I’m correct and you don’t own one of these, you’re cheating yourself. Here we have a used 80 year old knife that still snaps like a new one. You can beat it, but you can’t hurt it. It easily sharpens to a keen edge. If I can think of anymore compliments I’ll post them.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:33 am
by Papa Bones
joeradza wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:24 pm The bulk of the wirejack collection is no longer in my hands but that won’t stop me from singing their praises. If I were to guess I think the trapper is one of the most popular traditional patterns. If I’m correct and you don’t own one of these, you’re cheating yourself. Here we have a used 80 year old knife that still snaps like a new one. You can beat it, but you can’t hurt it. It easily sharpens to a keen edge. If I can think of anymore compliments I’ll post them.
::tu:: ::tu:: ::nod:: A nice one Joe.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:53 pm
by joeradza
Papa Bones wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:33 am
joeradza wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:24 pm The bulk of the wirejack collection is no longer in my hands but that won’t stop me from singing their praises. If I were to guess I think the trapper is one of the most popular traditional patterns. If I’m correct and you don’t own one of these, you’re cheating yourself. Here we have a used 80 year old knife that still snaps like a new one. You can beat it, but you can’t hurt it. It easily sharpens to a keen edge. If I can think of anymore compliments I’ll post them.
::tu:: ::tu:: ::nod:: A nice one Joe.
Thank you.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:30 pm
by jxr1197
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:25 pm WOW!!....now that's something different! ::tu:: ::tu::
That's a BEAUTY, Jason! ::tu:: ::tu::
PLEASE post it here also:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=3137

Re-posting from Schrade forum per Skip's request - ::tu::

The Wire Jack From Hell (WJFH) is a murderous little chunk of steel that never should have been allowed to escape the infernal pit that birthed it. It’s a prototype wire jack that was created in the sample room at Imperial and its design makes it likely from sometime between 1926 when G Schrade first patented the design and 1971 when OSHA was formed and started counting lost fingers in factories across America.

Where the Schrade wire jack is lean and efficient, the WJFH is heavy, hard to manipulate, and slams shut like a bear trap. The heavy frame makes opening the blade a chore – particularly if you were blessed with fat fingers. You have to pinch the frame with your thumb on one side and pointer & middle fingers on the other. As the blade opens that heavy spring starts to open up, gathering some unsuspecting finger meat as it’s widening. Then the blade finds the half stop which causes a violent, skin ripping contraction of the spring. After you recover from that you need to do it one more time to open the blade all the way. It’s even more harrowing when you go to close the blade because there’s so little real estate to hang onto, inevitably you find yourself with a finger in the path of the blade which closes with the urgency of a guillotine. The blade is moderately dull at the moment and will never meet a sharpening stone as long as I own it.

The knife is engineered beautifully with the moving parts exactly centered with barely enough room for a hair in the gaps. It’s just way too heavy and short to be safe. At 2-7/8” it weighs 2.2 oz compared to the small G Schrade wire jack which is 1.5 oz at 3.25”.
Back Closed.jpg
Closed Back Angle.jpg
Closed Top.jpg
Front Closed.jpg
Joint.jpg
Mark Side Half Stop.jpg
Mark Side Open Angle.jpg
Mark Side Open.jpg
Open Mark Side Front.jpg
Open Pile Side Back.jpg

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:31 pm
by jxr1197
Pile Side Closed.jpg
Pile Side Open Angle.jpg
Wire Jacks.jpg

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:47 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
jxr1197 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:30 pm Re-posting.....
Thank you Jason, it's definitely unique. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:37 am
by Papa Bones
jxr1197 wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:30 pm Re-posting from Schrade forum per Skip's request - ::tu::

The Wire Jack From Hell (WJFH) is a murderous little chunk of steel that never should have been allowed to escape the infernal pit that birthed it. It’s a prototype wire jack that was created in the sample room at Imperial and its design makes it likely from sometime between 1926 when G Schrade first patented the design and 1971 when OSHA was formed and started counting lost fingers in factories across America.

Where the Schrade wire jack is lean and efficient, the WJFH is heavy, hard to manipulate, and slams shut like a bear trap. The heavy frame makes opening the blade a chore – particularly if you were blessed with fat fingers. You have to pinch the frame with your thumb on one side and pointer & middle fingers on the other. As the blade opens that heavy spring starts to open up, gathering some unsuspecting finger meat as it’s widening. Then the blade finds the half stop which causes a violent, skin ripping contraction of the spring. After you recover from that you need to do it one more time to open the blade all the way. It’s even more harrowing when you go to close the blade because there’s so little real estate to hang onto, inevitably you find yourself with a finger in the path of the blade which closes with the urgency of a guillotine. The blade is moderately dull at the moment and will never meet a sharpening stone as long as I own it.

The knife is engineered beautifully with the moving parts exactly centered with barely enough room for a hair in the gaps. It’s just way too heavy and short to be safe. At 2-7/8” it weighs 2.2 oz compared to the small G Schrade wire jack which is 1.5 oz at 3.25”.
Wow, that is a most unusual design. I've never seen one before. Thanks for posting.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:57 am
by Reverand
I hate that it is so dangerous, because it looks so cool!
Makes me wish I had one. (I could always let my brother-in-law open and close it!)

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:15 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
It has been about four months since I added a wire handle or frame jack knife to this topic or thread and to my collection. Very recently, this knife arrived and ended the drought. It's another GEO SCHRADE, single blade, 4 3/4" closed, wire handle or frame jack knife. This knife has a blade etch. I couldn't quite capture it in the picture below. It says "HALE BROTHERS - MORRISTOWN TENN." This is the first time that I've seen a blade etch on a SCHRADE wire handle or frame jack knife of this size and pattern. It is in very good condition. I did not clean it at all. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:36 am
by treefarmer
Skip,
It appears there is no need to hunt for any wire jacks, I believe you must have all of 'em tied up!
Looking through this part of the forum, I noticed the wirejacks with the fish scaler on the spine of the blade. On this page back in July you mention having 12 of them with some pictured.
My question to you or any reader is "Is the blade in those knives the same blade that's in the G.Schrade's Stainless Steel Hunting & Fishing Knife?"
Is this the same blade in the wirejack?
Is this the same blade in the wirejack?
Treefarmer

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:02 am
by New_Windsor_NY
treefarmer wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:36 am Skip.....
No Philip, not all of them, not yet.
It is close, but the blade in the wire frame knife
is slightly wider than the blade in the Hunting & Fishing knife.

Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:02 am
by treefarmer
Thank you, Sir. Showing them side by side makes a difference.
I noticed one of the wirejacks with the fish scaler in your pile has a much narrower blade, is it a different model or has it been narrowed up over the years?
I found studying George Schrade to be very interesting. He was a visionary in my opinion.
I haven't found a Hunting & Fishing knife with the Boker markings on the blade, yet.
Treefarmer

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:16 am
by New_Windsor_NY
treefarmer wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:02 am Thank.....
Yes, it's not as wide as the others because it appears
to have been sharpened down over the years.

Re: wirejacks

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:07 pm
by doglegg
Knice comparison photo Skip. Thanks. ::tu::