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Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:15 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Miller Bro's wrote:
Here's a giant.
Well..... I recon so!
MAN, what a knife! I bet that joker can cut off a big ole limb.
(even a human limb if you aint careful......)
Mike

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:44 pm
by BWT
George Butler picked this up a couple of weeks ago and never posted it.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:46 pm
by JohnR
Nice one Bill, looks like as had little use.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:33 pm
by BWT
Thanks John, I have thought about cleaning it a little.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:49 pm
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:Here's a giant.
Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:24 pm
by Miller Bro's
BWT wrote:George Butler picked this up a couple of weeks ago and never posted it.
Bill, that's a beauty love the horn handles

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:33 pm
by Miller Bro's
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave
If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned!

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:35 pm
by Miller Bro's
wlf wrote:I have a French knife that Dimitri identified, he got lucky

, that’s got a very hooked hawkbill.
Thanks it's certainly different.
Yeah I've been known to get lucky once in a blue moon

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:46 pm
by LongBlade
BWT wrote:George Butler picked this up a couple of weeks ago and never posted it.
That’s a beauty of a Hawkbill Bill

... nice full blade with stamp & horn handles - nice score

....
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:24 pm
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave
If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned!

Thanks, I'll try to get one tomorrow when I have good light. ____Dave
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:33 pm
by danno50
That is a big one, Dimitri, very nice!

Great old knife in good condition, BWT!

I really like the blade stamps on some of the old Sheffield knives.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:36 pm
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave
If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned!

Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:05 am
by Miller Bro's
danno50 wrote:That is a big one, Dimitri, very nice!
Thanks Dan!
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:24 am
by Miller Bro's
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave
Dave thanks for the pictures beautiful old knives!
Here's what I believe it reads:
Vincent
---•---
Farrar
Vincent would be the name of the maker and " Farrar or Ferrar" is an occupational surname for a blacksmith or ironworker.
There was a John Vincent working out of London in the mid 1800's that is all the information I can provide
Hope this helps

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:38 am
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:djknife13 wrote:Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave
Dave thanks for the pictures beautiful old knives!
Here's what I believe it reads:
Vincent
---•---
Farrar
Vincent would be the name of the maker and " Farrar or Ferrar" is an occupational surname for a blacksmith or ironworker.
There was a John Vincent working out of London in the mid 1800's that is all the information I can provide
Hope this helps

Yes thanks. I kept thinking it was a first and last name but what you are saying makes sense. ___Dave
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:57 am
by BWT
danno50 wrote:That is a big one, Dimitri, very nice!

Great old knife in good condition, BWT!

I really like the blade stamps on some of the old Sheffield knives.
Thanks Dan!!
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:59 am
by BWT
djknife13 wrote:Miller Bro's wrote:djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave
If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned!

Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave
Very nice and interesting too Dave

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:04 am
by LongBlade
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:41 pm
by djknife13
Thanks Lee. I concentrated pretty heavily on hawkbills for several years and ended up at about 400. I've posted my best and rarest four including my two blade true split back English before but I'll probably dig them out and get a picture of them together. I even know where they are in the safe because I stumbled on them a couple days age looking for something else.____Dave
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:57 pm
by danno50
Nice ones, Dave!

WOW, 400 is a lot of hawkbills!!
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:52 am
by djknife13
4 of my favorites; L to R; 1) S._____ cutlers to King William, 1830-37 (I thought once is was an Oates, but I believe that would be too new for this knife, 2) IXL, no mystery here but this has the most massive stag of any of my knives, 3) Wade and Butcher cast steel, 4) Another mystery, but this is one of only two true split back knives I have ever seen, and a hawkbill to boot, also cutlery to King William. The split ends about 2/3 rds of the way down the spring from the blades. ___Dave
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:18 am
by LongBlade
Great knives Dave

... Thanks for sharing them

... The last two are awesome and so different... The Wade & Butcher has a massive blade and great handle... If you ever get a chance I would like to see the split springs on bottom of last one... In the 2nd photo of the tang stamp of first knife it looks to me to say Superior/Cutlery but can't quite make out a WcrownR which I suppose is on the top??
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:36 pm
by djknife13
LongBlade wrote:Great knives Dave

... Thanks for sharing them

... The last two are awesome and so different... The Wade & Butcher has a massive blade and great handle... If you ever get a chance I would like to see the split springs on bottom of last one... In the 2nd photo of the tang stamp of first knife it looks to me to say Superior/Cutlery but can't quite make out a WcrownR which I suppose is on the top??
It's faint but over the cast steel near the top of the picture. I'll try later today to get a clear picture of the split, I might put the other knife I just picked up that also has a split back. It isn't a hawkbill but may have been made by the same maker. ___Dave
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:47 pm
by BWT
Dave those are really nice, thanks for sharing, I can see why they would be your favorites

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:45 pm
by wlf
Nice knives Dave.
Here's one for posterity. I tried to buy this one ,can't even remember how I traced it, but it was way out of my league and the owner wouldn't come down . It's an extraordinary piece. 12 1/2" with inserts. ( ?)