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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:13 pm
by 1967redrider
bighomer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:20 am
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:24 pm
Chris, I was just about to ask if that's some kind of grip safety. Squeeze-cocker eh? This is the first time I've run into such a device. Interesting.
Dang Jerry you ever heard of 1911 Colt 45 or S&W lemon squeezer revolvers.? If not remember Google is our friend.
My Colt O1980-XSE has what I think they call a Beavertail safety, has to be squeezed to be fired. I thought maybe all "Modern" 1911s were made like that?

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:15 pm
by 1967redrider
Ridgegrass wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:54 pm
For any Civil War collectors: This is a 3" "Absterdam" (spelling correct), round for a Parrot rifle. I had a friend named John Owen. He and his wife both grew up in Gettysburg PA. He'd be over 100 now. He collected this round on the battlefield. When he was a kid in the 1930's it was still common to find things like this. When he died, his daughter gave it to me because I am an avid student of that chapter of our history.
The round is 7-1/2 " tall with a lead "sabot" to expand into the canon's rifling. Weight,9.5 pounds. It is believed to be of Southern manufacture due to where it was found and it's rough casting. The fuse is missing.
No idea what it's worth now, researched it 20 years ago and it was around $300 . Don't want to sell it anyway. J.O.
J.O', that's really cool! Don't think I have ever seen a picture of one of these before, thanks for posting.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:47 pm
by jerryd6818
They told us in boot camp that the Colt 1911 has several safeties integrated into it.
1.) must have a magazine inserted to fire
2.) Standard side to side button safety in back of the trigger
3.) Will not fire unless the slide is all the way home
4.) Grip safety
I feel like there's one more but if there is, I can't remember what it is.
Ah yes, Thumb safety (thank you Google)
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:00 pm
by Colonel26
A grip cocker is a different beast than the grip safety on a 1911. The 1911’s grip safety has a lever with a notch that sits down on the trigger shoe that keeps the trigger from moving rearward and engaging the sear. If it isn’t pushed in the trigger cannot be pulled. It has nothing to do with cocking the gun.
The grip cocking lever on the H&K actually cocks the gun. Both are safety devices of a type, but work completely differently.
I’m not sure exactly how the old lemon squeezer’s grip safety works. Maybe one day I’ll get hold of one! It would be most welcome in the stable.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:27 am
by Ridgegrass
RedRider: It's a neat keepsake and a great doorstop!

J.O'.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:14 am
by FRJ
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:47 pm
I feel like there's one more but if there is, I can't remember what it is.
And lets not forget about that one between our ears.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:01 am
by Colonel26
Boji wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:14 pm
S&W Model 65 Ladysmith with case, .38spl or .357mag
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That's wonderful! I'd pack a lady Smith in a heart beat.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:44 pm
by Boji
On the HK squeeze cocker , it is in a class of its own, not related to a 1911 in any way.
Rack the slide and then the inner grip cocker has to be held tightly in for each shot to fire. Otherwise it will not fire.
Not an easy process to learn well enough to carry,
I do have a holster for it but doubt I'll ever carry as it is a heavy gun for its size.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:29 pm
by bighomer
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:41 pm
by Quick Steel
Boji, First, congratulations on having the H&K. I have one as well. My experience with it is just a bit different than yours in that I find the squeeze cocker very easy to use. Once squeezed it requires (for me) no more thought than one would give to the grip safety on a 1911.
I wonder if applying a little oil might lighten the effort for you. The first time I fired my gun I was gripping excessively hard. Quickly learned that it took very little pressure to use, no more force than any standard grip.
Of course the cocker, besides cocking the gun, serves as a safety, and a slide release. Because of its gas operation, if the extractor should break (highly unlikely) the weapon would still eject cases and could continue in operation.
The H&K is almost ridiculously accurate. I actually laughed out loud my first day at the range because it was performing way above my abilities. Those holes in the target just kept landing on top of each other. I couldn't believe what was happening. Never happened for me with any other gun.
Its a marvelous gun. A few agencies used it, but it was always expensive, too expensive to produce today.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:46 pm
by Quick Steel
Phil, Some years ago there was a tough Chicago detective who, in a long career was successfully involved in a high number of gun fights.
His back up was a Lady Smith and highly recommended it to his peers. With his reputation, no one was about to tease him.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:47 pm
by Boji
Quick Steel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:41 pm
Boji, First, congratulations on having the H&K. I have one as well. My experience with it is just a bit different than yours in that I find the squeeze cocker very easy to use. Once squeezed it requires (for me) no more thought than one would give to the grip safety on a 1911.
I wonder if applying a little oil might lighten the effort for you. The first time I fired my gun I was gripping excessively hard. Quickly learned that it took very little pressure to use, no more force than any standard grip.
Of course the cocker, besides cocking the gun, serves as a safety, and a slide release. Because of its gas operation, if the extractor should break (highly unlikely) the weapon would still eject cases and could continue in operation.
The H&K is almost ridiculously accurate. I actually laughed out loud my first day at the range because it was performing way above my abilities. Those holes in the target just kept landing on top of each other. I couldn't believe what was happening. Never happened for me with any other gun.
Its a marvelous gun. A few agencies used it, but it was always expensive, too expensive to produce today.
I'm thinking the cocker could use a bit of oiling. Also, my hand strength isn't the greatest. Add those factors to the fact that I'm primarily a revolver
shooter. I will keep working on it. I agree about the accuracy.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:19 pm
by Colonel26
Well them ol boys at the lgs, done sucked me in again! We went down there to get Parker’s new toy, a Savage Axis youth model .223. While we were there I spotted this gem that they had just traded for yesterday.
It’s an old pre 68 (I haven’t looked up the exact year yet) Marlin 57M (22 magnum). The stock has seen some abuse, but it’s nothing I can’t straighten out and it shoots good. They made me an out the door deal I couldn’t pass up so home it came.
My name is Wade and I have an old Marlin problem.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:19 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Congratulations Wade, she’s a dandy.
BTW I’m a member of Marlins Anonymous too.
Ken
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:33 pm
by Steve Warden
Sweet score, Wade!
Happy shootin'!
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:49 pm
by Old Hunter
Nice Wade, that style is right up my alley, I would have never left it in the store either! OH
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:11 pm
by doglegg
Very sweet Wade, bet it is a flame thrower. Excellent.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:36 pm
by Boji
Sure, see how you guys are, now I want a 22mag.
So, I'll bug you with a couple of S&Ws
Early Model 66,4 inch, .357mag was issued to the police department of my hometown. These were very common in LE.
I also have the 2 1/2 inch version which was a back up or personal sidearm of another local department officer.
Model 10-7 .38spl has no personal history to me. They were also common in various agencies.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:52 pm
by edge213
Boji wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:36 pm
Sure, see how you guys are, now I want a 22mag.
So, I'll bug you with a couple of S&Ws
Early Model 66,4 inch, .357mag was issued to the police department of my hometown. These were very common in LE.
I also have the 2 1/2 inch version which was a back up or personal sidearm of another local department officer.
Model 10-7 .38spl has no personal history to me. They were also common in various agencies.
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Great guns.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:03 pm
by cudgee
Colonel26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:19 pm
Well them ol boys at the lgs, done sucked me in again! We went down there to get Parker’s new toy, a Savage Axis youth model .223. While we were there I spotted this gem that they had just traded for yesterday.
It’s an old pre 68 (I haven’t looked up the exact year yet) Marlin 57M (22 magnum). The stock has seen some abuse, but it’s nothing I can’t straighten out and it shoots good. They made me an out the door deal I couldn’t pass up so home it came.
My name is Wade and I have an old Marlin problem.
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Nice.

Love the stock. Good on you for a great score, enjoy, i'm sure you will. Have a good weekend mate.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:03 am
by Louisville.Boy1947
Colonel26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:19 pm
Well them ol boys at the lgs, done sucked me in again! We went down there to get Parker’s new toy, a Savage Axis youth model .223. While we were there I spotted this gem that they had just traded for yesterday.
It’s an old pre 68 (I haven’t looked up the exact year yet) Marlin 57M (22 magnum). The stock has seen some abuse, but it’s nothing I can’t straighten out and it shoots good. They made me an out the door deal I couldn’t pass up so home it came.
My name is Wade and I have an old Marlin problem.
B6493450-9A84-4043-BA10-521302581FF6.jpeg
Colonel, are you anywhere near Jefferson County ? If so, I may have to try to meet up with you to try out that Marlin !

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:52 am
by 1967redrider
Nice looking rifle, Colonel. We have a .22 Long Colt with a feeder tube that holds 15, how many does a Mag tube hold?
Nice wheel guns, Boji. I have an H&R subnose in .32 S&W Long. Nice thing is it's a little more hearing friendly.
Something a little different, a bud scored some blue aluminum mags and sold me two. I think they look nice with some 855 green tips.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:16 am
by Colonel26
Louisville.Boy1947 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:03 am
Colonel26 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:19 pm
Well them ol boys at the lgs, done sucked me in again! We went down there to get Parker’s new toy, a Savage Axis youth model .223. While we were there I spotted this gem that they had just traded for yesterday.
It’s an old pre 68 (I haven’t looked up the exact year yet) Marlin 57M (22 magnum). The stock has seen some abuse, but it’s nothing I can’t straighten out and it shoots good. They made me an out the door deal I couldn’t pass up so home it came.
My name is Wade and I have an old Marlin problem.
B6493450-9A84-4043-BA10-521302581FF6.jpeg
Colonel, are you anywhere near Jefferson County ? If so, I may have to try to meet up with you to try out that Marlin !
I’m just about straight down I-65 from you on the bottom end of the state. I’m outside of Scottsville 25 miles or so east of Bowling Green right in the TN line. If you’re ever down this way holler. We’ll look over guns, knives, and old tools.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:19 am
by Colonel26
Steve Warden wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:33 pm
Sweet score, Wade!
Happy shootin'!
Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:19 pm
Congratulations Wade, she’s a dandy.
BTW I’m a member of Marlins Anonymous too.
Ken
Old Hunter wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:49 pm
Nice Wade, that style is right up my alley, I would have never left it in the store either! OH
doglegg wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:11 pm
Very sweet Wade, bet it is a flame thrower. Excellent.
cudgee wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:03 pm
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Well them ol boys at the lgs, done sucked me in again! We went down there to get Parker’s new toy, a Savage Axis youth model .223. While we were there I spotted this gem that they had just traded for yesterday.
It’s an old pre 68 (I haven’t looked up the exact year yet) Marlin 57M (22 magnum). The stock has seen some abuse, but it’s nothing I can’t straighten out and it shoots good. They made me an out the door deal I couldn’t pass up so home it came.
My name is Wade and I have an old Marlin problem.
B6493450-9A84-4043-BA10-521302581FF6.jpeg
Nice.

Love the stock. Good on you for a great score, enjoy, i'm sure you will. Have a good weekend mate.

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Thanks guys. Other than trying it out at the lgs, I haven’t had time to shoot it.
Ken, I have a real hard time not brining home an old Marlin of any caliber, or just about any old 22.
OH, I thought of you and your Winchester 88 when I was looking this one over. They surely do look related.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:21 am
by Colonel26
Boji wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:36 pm
Sure, see how you guys are, now I want a 22mag.
So, I'll bug you with a couple of S&Ws
Early Model 66,4 inch, .357mag was issued to the police department of my hometown. These were very common in LE.
I also have the 2 1/2 inch version which was a back up or personal sidearm of another local department officer.
Model 10-7 .38spl has no personal history to me. They were also common in various agencies.
IMG-4821.jpg
IMG-4823.jpg
Nice Smiths! I have a model 65 that was police issued. It’s the same as your 66 only fixed sights. It’s a real nice shooting revolver too. It even makes my poor abilities look decent. I bet yours is a sweetheart too.