Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:18 pm
Your cup runneth over Joe! 
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Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:22 am
Thank you, guys. These two are definitely old and rare.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:08 pm
ALBION. Split back Whittler. Very little history on this old girl. Well made.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:56 pm
What's the length closed David? Great find.Snowed in this morning,for a while. 
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:21 am
I want to thank forum member "IMband" for helping me find this thread,,and i wanted to share with you a discussion on a forum that I moderate on..concerning the mercator name..that happened to come up. A pocket knife..with a modern day junk inscription came into discussion. The knife was authentic..but the addition to the grip plates were bogus. here is the thread below to which i have given the AAPK credit. Thank you ...you have a wonderful site hereIMBand wrote:Here is a pretty old and rare Otter knife. Only one or two posted on the site that I could find.
Thanks to basser5 for a little info he forwarded me on this knife.
Gebruder Berns Otterwerk - Gebr Berns Solingen 1899 - 1921
IM
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/ss-dienst ... -405686-3/
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:04 pm
Thanks ,welcome,and yes we do....
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:41 pm
Maybe these will fit here. Remington R4548 Electrician's Knife c. 1928 and Empire Electrician's Knife, c. 1930?
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Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:22 pm
Here are some old ones.
PLATTS BROTHERS UNION N.Y. 3 1/4 shadow sleeve board, ceylon waterfall celluloid.
H&B MFG Co. NEW BRITAIN CONN. 3 7/8" Congress
CENTRAL CITY KNIFE Co. PHOENIX N.Y. 3 5/8" tear drop jack
A trio of 4 1/4" ebony handles:
MAHER & GROSH TOLEDO O.
CARRIER CUT Co. ELMIRA N.Y.
WOLFERTZ & Co. ALLENTOWN PA.
Nice thread here,
Wayne
PLATTS BROTHERS UNION N.Y. 3 1/4 shadow sleeve board, ceylon waterfall celluloid.
H&B MFG Co. NEW BRITAIN CONN. 3 7/8" Congress
CENTRAL CITY KNIFE Co. PHOENIX N.Y. 3 5/8" tear drop jack
A trio of 4 1/4" ebony handles:
MAHER & GROSH TOLEDO O.
CARRIER CUT Co. ELMIRA N.Y.
WOLFERTZ & Co. ALLENTOWN PA.
Nice thread here,
Wayne
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:56 pm
Great knives Wayne! Especially the central. 
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:36 pm
Salernoslim wrote:Great knives Wayne! Especially the central.
Thanks,
Unfortunately the Central had been compromised a bit by an overzealous cleaner. Still whole and all original though.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:04 pm
This is an old bowie knife with a hand tooled leather belt and sheath. There are no stamps or marks on the knife at all. If anyone knows the maker of this knife I would like to know.
Fun Fact....
Mitt Romney’s great, great grand father Parley Pratt was murdered in 1857 by the estranged husband of his twelfth wife. His murder was a contributing factor to events leading up to the Mountain Meadows massacre a few months later. In September 11, 1857 the Mormons killed 120 people from the Baker–Fancher party who were traveling to Southern California along the Mormon Road (a portion of the Old Spanish Trail). Parley Pratt had a total of 30 children, and his living descendants in 2011 were estimated to number 30,000 to 50,000.
Fun Fact....
Mitt Romney’s great, great grand father Parley Pratt was murdered in 1857 by the estranged husband of his twelfth wife. His murder was a contributing factor to events leading up to the Mountain Meadows massacre a few months later. In September 11, 1857 the Mormons killed 120 people from the Baker–Fancher party who were traveling to Southern California along the Mormon Road (a portion of the Old Spanish Trail). Parley Pratt had a total of 30 children, and his living descendants in 2011 were estimated to number 30,000 to 50,000.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:59 pm
The jigged bone looks English.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:04 am
TJ, those are both very pretty. The stamped shield of the Empire is great.
I really like that H&B Wayne, it has very nice jigging
Also, that is a fine trio of ebony.
I really like that H&B Wayne, it has very nice jigging
Also, that is a fine trio of ebony.Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:29 am
Thanks Dimitri!
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:44 am
When I first saw the blade shape it reminded me of those 1950's era German bowies that seemed to be everywhere but one lool at the scales and particularly the sheath dispelled that notion.Not having seen many(any?)knives made pre-1900 with jigged bone scales(usually stag or rarely wood)I will have to defer to Dimitri on that.The belt is a most interesting adjunct;did it come with the knife? The knife itself definitely looks to be factory made rather than a one off.Whatever the case I like it.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:13 am
Thanks knife7knut,
My father referred to it as the Mountain Man Knife. I don't know when the knife was made. The belt and sheath came with it. The leather sheath fits so tight that it is actually cutting through the leather so you have to be careful when removing or placing the knife back into the sheath.
Fun Fact....
Mitt Romney’s great, great grand father Parley Pratt was murdered in 1857 by the estranged husband of his twelfth wife. His murder was a contributing factor to events leading up to the Mountain Meadows massacre a few months later. In September 11, 1857 the Mormons killed 120 people from the Baker–Fancher party who were traveling to Southern California along the Mormon Road (a portion of the Old Spanish Trail). Parley Pratt had a total of 30 children, and his living descendants in 2011 were estimated to number 30,000 to 50,000.
My father referred to it as the Mountain Man Knife. I don't know when the knife was made. The belt and sheath came with it. The leather sheath fits so tight that it is actually cutting through the leather so you have to be careful when removing or placing the knife back into the sheath.
Fun Fact....
Mitt Romney’s great, great grand father Parley Pratt was murdered in 1857 by the estranged husband of his twelfth wife. His murder was a contributing factor to events leading up to the Mountain Meadows massacre a few months later. In September 11, 1857 the Mormons killed 120 people from the Baker–Fancher party who were traveling to Southern California along the Mormon Road (a portion of the Old Spanish Trail). Parley Pratt had a total of 30 children, and his living descendants in 2011 were estimated to number 30,000 to 50,000.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:28 pm
Had this in q and a when i got it, the knife is fine, guess they put it up when the handles got broke..
which helped it stay in the shape it is, fine example of a rare model, Plus it being with rare handle material.
i washed it and done a little bone repair. I looked in what few outdated books i have and none, mentioned
this bone on this model
CASE AND SON
BRADFORD PA
MODEL# 61049
SCALES= RED WINTERBOTTOM
which helped it stay in the shape it is, fine example of a rare model, Plus it being with rare handle material.
i washed it and done a little bone repair. I looked in what few outdated books i have and none, mentioned
this bone on this model
CASE AND SON
BRADFORD PA
MODEL# 61049
SCALES= RED WINTERBOTTOM
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:47 pm
Now that is awesome! I've never seen one like it!
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:47 pm
You're right Cates,that saber blade is awesome and in excellent condition.Very nice find.You get tired of that West Coast Camillus farmers jack,let me know.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:35 pm
Here is one I got this week.
The only electrician's knife variant I have with a lock back.
The only electrician's knife variant I have with a lock back.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:02 pm
Nice find Dale ¯¯¨˜"Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:34 pm
I found this one a few weeks ago and there is very little information and Goins just list their name which is R Groves & Sons Limited. I looked them up and found they were a manufacturer of Saws and a steel refiner. They started in 1770 and I know that they were still in business till at least 1879. The knife has Teacher 1830 on the Sterling Silver handle. This is a nice little knife for possibly being over 180 years old!
This enterprise was established in 1770 (according to their advertising and catalog cover) and was a well know producer of saws and steel refiner.
In the "Reminiscences of Old Sheffield, Its Streets and Its People" Robert Eadon Leader (1875), describes this outfit as "Steadfast to their old localities in Snow hill are Richard Groves & Sons, perhaps the oldest saw manufacturers in the town. Mr. Groves, the grandfather of the present firm, always had an open Bible before him on his work-board."
1828 - Sheffield Directory and Guide, (John Blackwell, Sheffield, England, 1828).
This enterprise was established in 1770 (according to their advertising and catalog cover) and was a well know producer of saws and steel refiner.
In the "Reminiscences of Old Sheffield, Its Streets and Its People" Robert Eadon Leader (1875), describes this outfit as "Steadfast to their old localities in Snow hill are Richard Groves & Sons, perhaps the oldest saw manufacturers in the town. Mr. Groves, the grandfather of the present firm, always had an open Bible before him on his work-board."
1828 - Sheffield Directory and Guide, (John Blackwell, Sheffield, England, 1828).
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:13 am
Wow, that is an amazing knife. Thanks for showing it to us.
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:01 am
COOL KNIFE!!! 
GUESSING IT WAS MADE FOR: WM TEACHER & SONS
ESTABLISHED 1830
famous for TEACHER's HIGHLAND CREAM
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=As ... =yfp-t-243
GUESSING IT WAS MADE FOR: WM TEACHER & SONS
ESTABLISHED 1830
famous for TEACHER's HIGHLAND CREAM
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=As ... =yfp-t-243
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:43 am
Junebug,junebug wrote:COOL KNIFE!!!
GUESSING IT WAS MADE FOR: WM TEACHER & SONS
ESTABLISHED 1830
famous for TEACHER's HIGHLAND CREAM
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=As ... =yfp-t-243
I guess that could be a definite possibility and it's more than I could find any links on which were 0! Thanks for the research!
I love AAPK!! 
Richard