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Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:54 pm
by LongBlade
All Awesome knives Barry ::tu:: ::tu:: That small Miller Bros is sweet and the Crookes has some stunning stag!! John Westons Celebrated I am just “guessing” English but maybe not Sheffield - or a very well made German “Sheffield wanna-be” :) ... not sure what to call the other Hendrich and Grah pattern - sort of a congress jack ::shrug:: ... 8) .. Thanks for posting those Barry!!

Jerry - Nice Berettas ::tu:: ... I’m not sure I would call the first one a wharncliffe blade ::shrug:: ... but the 2nd is no doubt right up your alley with handles similar to the mod Glen did for you!!

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:50 pm
by galvanic1882
Barry, those are some beautiful knives!!

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:51 pm
by ObsidianEdge
Wow Barry, those are all superb! I was going to write that I liked the Miller Bros best but I can't pick just one. Thanks for posting them. I had no luck with John Westons Celebrated Cutlery as well. I looked in Tweedale's, Carter, Goins and a couple of Sheffield lists. Maybe Bernard Levine knows?

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:21 pm
by Mason
Thanks, danno50, Lee, Joe, and Barry.
Thanks also Lee for the kind words towards the Wharncliffe article. Beyond the history aspect, I tried to point out the importance and evolution of both the Wharncliffe handle and blade shapes.
I also wanted to add that there have been some great articles written by other AAPK members for "Knife Magazine" which include Lee (LongBlade), Tom (bestgear), and Wayne (btrwtr). There are certainly others here who have the knowledge base to write interesting articles as well, and I would encourage them to do so.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:23 pm
by Mason
Those are some stunning examples, Barry.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:05 pm
by FRJ
Barry, your knives are absolutely beautiful. Great show!

I have one of those little fobs.
I think mine came across the Delaware with ol' George; in the bottom of the boat.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:54 am
by 1fartsmella
Found this 2 1/2" closed (62mm). Wharncliffe whittler. All 3 blades are stamped G crown R CONGREVE PATENT. It has carved Tortoise shell handles and scalloped liners. It's very fragile, with a couple of cracks in the deeper carved grooves of the shell. Levine's book dates this 1829 - 1843. I'm wondering about the word Patent in the stamping?
Neal, I believe this knife pre-dates your Wilds knife by a couple of years?

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:20 am
by FRJ
Barry, your knives are really special. Love those whittlers with the long little blades. So nice!

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:16 am
by Ivoryman
Fabulous knife Barry, never seen anything like that. And tortoise, very cool.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:37 pm
by galvanic1882
Barry, that is one sweet knife!!

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:04 pm
by ObsidianEdge
Incredible knife Barry! Thanks for posting it. You have quite the collection.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:40 am
by LongBlade
1fartsmella wrote:Found this 2 1/2" closed (62mm). Wharncliffe whittler. All 3 blades are stamped G crown R CONGREVE PATENT. It has carved Tortoise shell handles and scalloped liners. It's very fragile, with a couple of cracks in the deeper carved grooves of the shell. Levine's book dates this 1829 - 1843. I'm wondering about the word Patent in the stamping?
Neal, I believe this knife pre-dates your Wilds knife by a couple of years?
Great old unique knife Barry ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Congreve was a really well known early Bowie Sheffield maker in the 1830s - indeed Congreve Bowies are quite collectable and were considered some of the first produced at that time. Anyway I also have an old quill marked GcrownR and "Patent" underneath (same time period 1820-1827 based on GcrownR) - If I understood correctly, as I asked the same question, the patent stamp means the cutlery was granted a patent by the king for the knife pattern. Thanks for sharing all those beauties in this thread Barry!

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:34 am
by Mason
Fantastic Congreve model, Barry!!! Very interesting with the "Patent" stamp, and perhaps it was the first patented Wharncliffe model???
And yes, it probably predates my Wilds by possibly a decade.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:48 pm
by luckydog64
I had to let these last couple pages cool off before I posted. Some fantastic knives being shown. WH Morley and Sons

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:13 am
by 1fartsmella
Thank you guys for your kind words.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:16 am
by Old Folder
Here's an old Farmer's Jack Wharncliffe:
EMU Ford & Medley, Sheffield.
c1872-1930
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Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:28 am
by 1fartsmella
An unusual whittler, kind of a Gun Stock Wharncliffe handle. A bit worn. Stamped Luke Firths Celebrated Cutlery on all 3 blades. Has Wharncliffe Knife stamped on the face of the master blade. Ivory handles 2 5/8" closed. Levine dates this stamp 1849 to 1870.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:14 am
by jerryd6818
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Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:38 am
by 1fartsmella
A true Wharncliffe. Waterville Cutlery Co. Conn. Engraved Aluminum 3" closed. Possibly from the time frame when aluminum was as valuable as gold?

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:41 am
by thegreedygulo
Wow! That is different in a GOOD way. Excellent knife!! ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:25 am
by Ivoryman
Beauties Barry, Luckydog. Outstanding.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:51 am
by 1fartsmella
Thanks guys. This Ulster has been posted in another thread but belongs here as well.

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:57 am
by galvanic1882
Another beauty Barry!!! ::mdm::

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:21 pm
by LongBlade
Nice knives Barry ::tu:: ... that gunstock Ivory wharncliffe is very cool 8) .. I posted the same Waterville on pg 17 of this thread - same stamp for Waterville but the aluminum handles are rounded whereas yours seems to be flat on each side - perhaps a variation of the handles made for these knives ::shrug:: ...

Re: Wharncliffe Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:10 am
by QTCut5
Gotta keep this thread alive even if all I have to offer is this recently released 2019 Case 6207W. But, it has a Wharncliffe blade; so, I believe it qualifies, even if it's on a Mini Trapper/Dogleg Jack frame.
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Call it what you will, but as far as I'm concerned, this 07W qualifies as a Wharncliffe . Duh!...why else would there be a "W" in the pattern number?
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~Q~