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Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 3:40 pm
by BWT
Very nice and interesting selection of knives Barry,Lee,Ken and Ray thanks for sharing those ::tu::

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 4:53 pm
by LongBlade
Really nice knives Barry, Joe, Ken and Ray ::tu:: ::tu:: ....

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 1:56 am
by Waukonda
A recent purchase from Roger, my first Excelsior 4 1/8"

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 11:59 am
by BWT
Very nice Ike, that’s a real beauty! I’ve never come across an Excelsior yet, nice find.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 12:36 pm
by Waukonda
Thank you, Bill, I appreciate it.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 2:05 pm
by FRJ
That is a beautiful knife, Ike. Strong springs?
I have one. Yours is much nicer than mine.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 2:09 pm
by peanut740
Ike ::tu::

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 2:44 pm
by LongBlade
Very nice knife Ike ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Excelsior is a really interesting make to me - though the company is listed as 1880-1884 it was bought by Northfield and the stamp was continued to be used on knives until the early 1900s - it seems, if I understand, it was a marketing ploy by Northfield to sell Excelsior - Northfield figured if folks didn't like Northfield knives and were fans of Excelsior they would sell - guess it worked for almost 20 years :)

Can you make out the remnants of the etch on the master blade?? Was it "Excelsior"??

Here's one of my Excelsior knives (never had an easy time finding them and only have a couple) -

Blades Open DSCN9974.JPG

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:19 pm
by Waukonda
FRJ wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 2:05 pm That is a beautiful knife, Ike. Strong springs?
I have one. Yours is much nicer than mine.
I ripped my thumbnail on my first attempt to open, Roger had failed to include an "advisory" about such. :lol: So, as Lloyd would say, it has EWT (enthusiastic walk and talk).

Lee, that swell center is beautiful. I really like that one. Interesting about the use of tang stamp.
The etch on mine is not really visible except for the O and R, but the size of the font and size of the blade would make me think that it has to have been EXCELSIOR......circumstantial evidence.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:35 pm
by stockman
Ike, That is a really nice Excelsior hard knives to find.

Harold

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 4:17 pm
by BWT
LongBlade wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 2:44 pm Very nice knife Ike ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Excelsior is a really interesting make to me - though the company is listed as 1880-1884 it was bought by Northfield and the stamp was continued to be used on knives until the early 1900s - it seems, if I understand, it was a marketing ploy by Northfield to sell Excelsior - Northfield figured if folks didn't like Northfield knives and were fans of Excelsior they would sell - guess it worked for almost 20 years :)

Can you make out the remnants of the etch on the master blade?? Was it "Excelsior"??

Here's one of my Excelsior knives (never had an easy time finding them and only have a couple) -


Blades Open DSCN9974.JPG
Very nice Lee,really good condition and nice pattern. I hope to find one someday but I do have a Northfield, I posted it once before just don’t remember where that was.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:03 pm
by KAW
I'll join in in saying... that's a nice looking knife Ike.

I didn't realize they are that rare as I have two...
10881 10880

10935

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:27 pm
by Waukonda
Thank you Harold and Ken.

Wow, Ken, those are pretty awesome and 2 diff tang stamps. I wonder if they represent pre/post Northfield?

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 2:32 pm
by wlf
Great old knives Ike, Ken , and Lee.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 2:52 pm
by wlf
A couple close relatives. Holley Waterville Conn. 3 3/4” farmers jacks. Seems early knives were smaller, as most FJs are close to 4”. Rare whittler with pruning master blade. Farmers whittler :D
As described in the 1915 Holley catalogue reprint.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 3:22 pm
by KAW
Awesome Holleys Lyle! 8) ::tu:: ...its hard enough to find a Holley... or a farmer's jack (I still don't have one)... but a Holley farmer's jack must be like finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow!... then a Holley farmer's whittler is like the Holy Grail!! ...and in such great shape! Simply awesome!!!

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 3:38 pm
by Waukonda
Wow! Great pair, Lyle. Thanks for letting us have a look at those rarities.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 3:55 pm
by danno50
As usual, Ray, another great variety show! ::tu:: I am especially partial to the Challenge EO and the H&B silver handled whittler!
Very nice large cigar jack, Ike, and an Excelsior to boot! ::tu::
Beautiful Excelsior, Lee, great pattern! ::tu::
Two good, well loved, old Excelsiors, Ken! ::tu::
Lovely Holley Farmer's knives, Lyle! ::tu:: I really like that Farmer's whittler!

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:03 am
by LongBlade
Thanks Dan ::handshake:: ::tu:: ..

Nice knives Ken and Lyle ::tu:: ::tu:: ... a Holley FJ WHittler :mrgreen: (though not sure Holley is really Naugatuck Valley ::hmm:: :lol: )....

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:49 am
by wlf
LongBlade wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 1:03 am Thanks Dan ::handshake:: ::tu:: ..

Nice knives Ken and Lyle ::tu:: ::tu:: ... a Holley FJ WHittler :mrgreen: (though not sure Holley is really Naugatuck Valley ::hmm:: :lol: )....
I wasn’t either, but I read the original post and Waterville Cutlery was mentioned by Ken. Refresh me about Naugatuck Valley. Sorry guys.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:22 am
by LongBlade
wlf wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 1:49 am
LongBlade wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 1:03 am Thanks Dan ::handshake:: ::tu:: ..

Nice knives Ken and Lyle ::tu:: ::tu:: ... a Holley FJ WHittler :mrgreen: (though not sure Holley is really Naugatuck Valley ::hmm:: :lol: )....
I wasn’t either, but I read the original post and Waterville Cutlery was mentioned by Ken. Refresh me about Naugatuck Valley. Sorry guys.
I was busting on you Lyle :D .. sorry if you misinterpreted and really I think lots of knives from CT being posted... but in truth not sure Holley was in the Naugatuck Valley (maybe you missed that on the last page when I found the thread - geographically it may fit but the fringe of on the outer edges as I see it - usually most towns of Waterbury and surrounding area both north and south had the cutleries... Ben Timme wrote a good article about mostly Naugatuck companies back in June 2012 in Knife World - I don't believe Holley was included - more Lyman Bradley, Waterville etc.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:13 pm
by wlf
Being busted is sometimes necessary , but always remembered. :D
Heh heh heh
By the way, I didn’t see your article intricately detailing the knives of the Billings & Spencer Co. , even though it’s on the front page of Knife Magazine. :)

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 2:51 pm
by LongBlade
wlf wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 1:13 pm Being busted is sometimes necessary , but always remembered. :D
Heh heh heh
By the way, I didn’t see your article intricately detailing the knives of the Billings & Spencer Co. , even though it’s on the front page of Knife Magazine. :)
Lyle - :D :D ... Now that you saw the cover of the May issue of Knife Magazine check out the article... B&S no doubt had an interesting history and unique knives for the period... I've only posted the combination knife tool here long ago so check out the rest if interested ::nod:: ... (and no I don't consider B&S Naugatuck Valley - but CT Valley for sure :) ...

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 12:02 pm
by JohnR
Some very nice knives being shown everyone ::tu:: ::tu::

A few more, a Thomaston, H&B and a Southington.

Re: Knives of the Naugatuck Valley, Conn.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 12:58 pm
by wlf
My post was sarcasm, or I couldn’t have commented about the in depth of the article. :) I haven’t finished it though. I remember when you posted that knife.