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Re: wirejacks
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:36 pm
by oregon
Thank you singin46. That blade style is one of my favorites: useful belly and pointy tip, plus it is big enough so you have options.
C'mon. Drag it out in front of the lens. Pretty please.
It will do until a better one comes along I betcha.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:07 pm
by oregon
Just how many different George Schrade Wire Jack patterns are there? The size of the Wire Jack Universe is only...
Five, I believe:
1-3 Utility knives #175 (4" closed), #125 (4" closed) and #150 (4 3/4" closed).
4 Fishing knife #225 (4 3/4" closed).
5 Chow Kit Wire Jack (3 1/4" closed).
Would you count, what would you leave in: The bronze blade (powder monkey/explosives knife)?
What would you leave out: Chow Kit folding fork is not a knife but it has a wire handle and it was made by Geo Schrade...
Are there others to consider?
What do you think?
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:09 pm
by singin46
This is a pretty complete listing I think Steve. Although it doesn't give you a great idea of color.
http://www.guycard.com/wirejack.htm
Perry
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:56 pm
by oregon
George Schrade Wire Jack Patterns, 5
Vetting: All five knives appear in the book by George & William Schrade "George Schrade and His Accomplishments to the Knife Industry" purchased online and the authenticity of my copy was verified by William (Bill) Schrade (see pages 38, 39 & 42). All five knives, except for the #175 Utility Knife Hawkbill, which is a
paper image borrowed from the above cited book, are actually in my possession and appear authentic to my eye.
These are
ALL of the George Schrade Wire Jack patterns. Five. I've made a ruling.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:07 am
by singin46
Here's my well used Hawkbill example but still very solid in every way.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:34 am
by oregon
Beautiful! Very nice of you to post that photo. You have the guard. Mine is missing its guard, unfortunately. It has that heavy gauge blade. Great blade for pull cuts.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:44 am
by singin46
Thanks Steve

there's lots of pitting on it but it still snaps shut like new. I have tried to remove the red handle insert but to no avail. There doesn't seem to be any way of grabbing hold of it.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:19 am
by oregon
I use tuf guard in order to stop aging of steel.
The guards on the large Wire Jacks may be set into the handle by pressing the fold of the guard in two places so that these punched out sections of the guard insert themselves into two dents in the handle. Press fit and tight as if glued in place. Once removed I don't know how to re-seat those pushed out parts back into their assigned dents. Yours is a testament to a guard well placed.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:35 am
by singin46
I agree, it's in there for good!

Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:59 pm
by oregon
Updated set of Wire Jacks, to include a better condition #175 Hawksbill with a guard and to better organize the model numbers.
Note: The #125 Spear Point above is a paper cut out. I need a real #125 (good, bad or ugly) for a better photo group shot of the Wire Jacks. Anyone have even a color photo of one? Email me if you can help. Thank you.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:11 am
by singin46
Where'd you find the red insert Steve?

Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:30 am
by oregon
It is a new hawksbill for me.
I needed one with a guard for the photographic image of the five Geo Schrade Wire Jacks.
Now if I had the Spear Point model the picture would be complete. The paper substitute is better than nothing but not very instructive. Perhaps one will pop up. I'll beat the bushes @ OKCA this April. Maybe Glen will sell me his

!
Who has a spare?
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:10 pm
by oregon
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:36 pm
by jerryd6818
I just love that little anvil. And the knives ain't bad either.

Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:58 pm
by oregon
Thank you Jerry.
My lovely wife dragged me along with her to an antique show about a year ago. Quid pro quo, something for something, she has accompanied me to cutlery shows so, well, you know how it goes. I was completely surprised to find vintage cutlery, cannon balls and anvils of all sizes. I came very close to buying a real big and capable anvil, seller would deliver, but I got this one that fit into my pocket ($20 if I remember correctly). There were many small anvils at the show but this one became mine. A great prop for knife pics. If done right the photo can make the knife look huge!

Re: wirejacks
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:40 pm
by UN-X-LD
Very interesting style of knife.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:36 am
by oregon
The George Schrade Wire Jack style of folding knife so interested me that I'd like to see all of the variations in the flesh. The simplicity, openness, scarcity of parts and display of genius have pulled me toward the world of George Schrade, a giant from the early cutlery industry, who invented the switchblade and the automatic player piano among other things. Gone from this world since 1940 his contributions continue to travel thru time.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:34 am
by oregon
Updated image of the Five G. Schrade Wire Jacks (this version updates the large spearpoint #125 to a paper image of an actual 125 and not a picture from a book, although all knives can be found in the George Schrade book "George Schrade and His Accomplishments to the Knife Industry", kind thanks to Glen Davis for the image of his 125):
Now if I could locate the actual knife I'd feel like I accomplished something. I hope this image helps you.
Thank you for looking.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:34 pm
by oregon
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:44 pm
by oregon
This is a fun pattern. 6.2 ounces, just under 4.75" handle and 8 3/8" overall open.
The cutting edge looks pristine to my eye. I cannot see any evidence of battoning on the back of the blade (nor do I see any signs of abuse anywhere on this unusual vintage slipjoint). The red guard is keeping its paint and it is solidly in place. The pivot action is smooth with stops at 1/2 and full open. Notice the complete lack of jimping on the thick-wire handle. Instead, the handle is smooth.
If you have one like this axe, or one of the large spearpoints, please post some photos.
Thank you for looking.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:36 am
by ozzie marie
oregon,
You have some of the most
INCREDIBLE examples of Wire Jacks, that I've ever seen
I thought I had of all of them but I've never seen that Axe, so I'll start looking for one now
Thanks for sharing
Here's my Spear Point on top of an Original Advertising Sheet.
Keith
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:44 am
by oregon
OMG!
Terrific Large Spearpoint Wire Jack. I think that yours and Glen's (Guy Card) are the only two in this country that I've seen and yours is in great condition. I don't suppose that you have an extra one you want to part with?
I've seen a photo of one, taken 5 years ago, in Normandy France and that is the known inventory (3) AFAIK.
Have you been able to acquire the munitions/brass variation?
Thank you kindly for posting the photo. Very exciting for me.
Here is a photo of the axe pattern from the January 2003 OKCA newsletter article by Glen, page eight:
http://www.oregonknifeclub.org/Newsletter%200301.pdf
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:56 am
by jerryd6818
That ax is fascinating. That's the first one I've ever seen posted anywhere. So cool.
Keith -- Did you know yours is so rare (true definition of the word, not the eBay definition

)
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:18 pm
by oregon
Thank you Jerry.
I would like to see a group photo from Glen, and from all Wire Jack collectors, of all the variations of Wire Jacks. And, I need to get a group photo together myself for the forum.
It is terrific to see photos of these little known wonders from the past.
Re: wirejacks
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:45 pm
by oregon
A couple different pics of the Axe's tang stamp for your amusement:
